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Trident Maple Outside
« on: January 24, 2013, 12:36 PM »
Hey guys,

The temperature in NYC is extremely cold lately. During the nights it is 18-21 degrees. My maple is currently outside and I am watering it once a week. Do you guys recommend still keeping it outside in this weather?

Nick,
 

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Re: Trident Maple Outside
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2013, 01:02 PM »
From someone who lives in an area that doesn't get those kinds of temps regularly, I'll say that I prefer to protect my tridents when temps get down to the mid-20s.  That said, we had a cold snap a couple of years ago and I think we had lows of around 13 or 16°F and my trees were only protected by the heat held by the ground.  No leaves, no burial.  I don't remember any issues that year that I attributed directly to the cold.

I'll defer to others with more experience, but you won't go wrong by protecting the roots a little.
 

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Re: Trident Maple Outside
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2013, 01:31 PM »
How did you protect your roots?
 

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Re: Trident Maple Outside
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2013, 01:44 PM »
In the example cited above, I huddled all the trees together on the ground.  I'd prefer to protect them by moving them to an unheated garage, or leaves or even blankets around the pot.  Maybe a cold frame, or bury the pots in the ground.
 

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Re: Trident Maple Outside
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2013, 02:23 PM »
I just went outside and noticed the water below the pot turned into ice. I took it home and wrapped the pot with 2 blankets. Thanks for the advice.

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Re: Trident Maple Outside
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2013, 03:57 PM »
Hey guys,

The temperature in NYC is extremely cold lately. During the nights it is 18-21 degrees. My maple is currently outside and I am watering it once a week. Do you guys recommend still keeping it outside in this weather?

Nick,

An unheated garage would be good.  If you don't have one then leave it outside.  You don't need to water weekly when your tree is frozen.  I live in Michigan and have tridents that live outdoors all year.  Just be sure to keep the pot on the ground and not on a bench.
 

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Re: Trident Maple Outside
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2013, 06:03 PM »
Hi Everyone,

This is my first post.  I live in zone 5b near Lake Michigan and have my newly purchased trident maple in an insulated box in my unheated garage.  I thought that all was well until temperatures reached negative 6 F.  A bonsai buddy of mine told me to bring it into the basement or the roots will freeze and go to mush. I brought it inside and now I have had the tree in the insulated box in the house for a week.  The weather will warm and then drop again to zero.  I'm now afraid that it will come out of dormancy in the house  I know that it's not a houseplant.  I'm equally afraid that, if I bring it back out into the garage, it will die from the drastic temperature change. It still shows no signs of coming out of dormancy. Please advise.  Thanks.
 

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Re: Trident Maple Outside
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2013, 08:14 PM »
Hi Everyone,

This is my first post.  I live in zone 5b near Lake Michigan and have my newly purchased trident maple in an insulated box in my unheated garage.  I thought that all was well until temperatures reached negative 6 F.  A bonsai buddy of mine told me to bring it into the basement or the roots will freeze and go to mush. I brought it inside and now I have had the tree in the insulated box in the house for a week.  The weather will warm and then drop again to zero.  I'm now afraid that it will come out of dormancy in the house  I know that it's not a houseplant.  I'm equally afraid that, if I bring it back out into the garage, it will die from the drastic temperature change. It still shows no signs of coming out of dormancy. Please advise.  Thanks.

Don't baby your tree.  You will kill it doing that.

It will be fine in your unheated garage, and does not need to be in an insulated box.  Just keep it on the floor in your garage since the ground will help keep a consistent temperature.  Let it freeze.  It will be 100% fine that way.  Freezing is not a culprit.  A constant freezing/thawing/freezing/thawing cycle in radical swings is a problem, as is strong, drying wind.  None of those issues should occur if the tree is in your garage.  Don't kill it with kindness.
 

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Re: Trident Maple Outside
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2013, 12:11 AM »
I don't know if it would be enough heat for a maple under those conditions but for orchids we used to use the old style Christmas lights around the pots or just near the pots. We would paint the bulbs black. This would produce enough heat to keep the plants from freezing
 

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Re: Trident Maple Outside
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2013, 09:31 AM »
When I lived in MA, I used to store many trees, including several tridents, on the floor of my unnattached garage, with the pots covered with wood chip mulch.  Typically, the mulch would freeze solid by the end of December and stay frozen through March and even into April.  Despite being frozen for 3 plus months and seeing temps inside the garage dip into the single digits on occassion, the tridents always were fine.  Let them freeze, protect the roots from extreme cold OR excess warmth to keep them dormant as long as you can and you will be fine, too.