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General Category => Deciduous Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: RyanFrye on May 19, 2011, 07:14 PM

Title: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: RyanFrye on May 19, 2011, 07:14 PM
This is a crape myrtle that I collected several years back out of some ones landscape. I've been working on the branches ever since. This year I'm really focusing on extending the left lower branches as well as developing the canopy. The first pic was taken recently and the second was its first defoliation of the year. I'll try to snap a pic of the new front. It's a slight rotation but it makes all the difference.
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: Brent on May 19, 2011, 10:18 PM
Nice monstrosity of a tree Ryan  ;D
I agree, Canopy needs some development, primarily. I reckon this will be one killer tree quite soon!

Cheers
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: bwaynef on May 20, 2011, 09:00 AM
Nice tree.  How long have you been building those branches?  Are there scars that we can't see from this angle?  That's a nice looking tree.  When are you going to try to get it into a better pot?

(Sorry for the barrage of questions!)
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: RyanFrye on May 20, 2011, 10:22 AM
Nice tree.  How long have you been building those branches?  Are there scars that we can't see from this angle?  That's a nice looking tree.  When are you going to try to get it into a better pot?

(Sorry for the barrage of questions!)

Thank you for the compliments guys.

I've been building the branches maybe 5 - 6 plus years. Most scars are on the top of the main branches and are not visible. There is one large Chop on the back of the apex that is closing slowly but surely. But the good thing is there aren't any scars visible from any possible front angle.

Getting a real pot for this guy is going to be a challenge. The widest dimension is about 36 In for a suitable pot. I would love to put it in a pot next year. But I'm looking for one that is nice but also decently priced.

Ryan
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: bonsaikc on May 23, 2011, 02:05 PM
Wow. That's an amazing piece of work, Ryan! Great job so far!
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: Don Blackmond on May 23, 2011, 03:21 PM
Getting a real pot for this guy is going to be a challenge. The widest dimension is about 36 In for a suitable pot. I would love to put it in a pot next year. But I'm looking for one that is nice but also decently priced.

Ryan

I have a pot for your tree.  Send me an email. don@gregorybeachbonsai.com
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: RyanFrye on May 23, 2011, 09:25 PM
Wow. That's an amazing piece of work, Ryan! Great job so far!

Thanks friend :)
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: RyanFrye on May 23, 2011, 09:25 PM
Getting a real pot for this guy is going to be a challenge. The widest dimension is about 36 In for a suitable pot. I would love to put it in a pot next year. But I'm looking for one that is nice but also decently priced.

Ryan

I have a pot for your tree.  Send me an email. don@gregorybeachbonsai.com

Hi Don,

I sent you an email. Look forward to seeing what you have available.
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: kabudachi on May 26, 2011, 11:11 PM
Beautiful Bonsai!

James Hilaire
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: FlyBri on September 24, 2011, 11:10 PM
Wow. That's an amazing piece of work, Ryan! Great job so far!

Gday Ryan!

I can't help but agree with KC - great job so far!

I recently took possession of a similar Crepe Myrtle stump, and had been thinking of training it in much the same fashion as you have: monster sumo broom style. (I just happened across your post and was struck by the parallels between your tree and my "vision".)

Members of AusBonsai.com will be able to view my trunk HERE (http://www.ausbonsai.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=9615). For non-AB.cers, I'll include a pic or two - hoping not to hijack Ryan's thread... ;)

My major concern is with regards to the scars left by major trunk chops (40-70mm), but your tree indicates that well-considered trunk chops will "disappear" over time.

Has this tree been in that tray for the duration of its training? Do you have any other tips for the CM novice?

Thanks, and I will be bookmarking this thread!

FlyBri.
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: Judy on September 25, 2011, 09:04 AM
Anyone else have a problem after clicking to view the first CM pictures with a HACKER alert?  After looking at the pic, I had a screen come up that said that the server had been hacked by the Bangaladeshi Hacker.  :( Was the same window as the tree pic, and bounced around.  I couldn't get rid of it till I restarted.  Be Careful!
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: bwaynef on September 25, 2011, 09:46 AM
No problem viewing them for me.
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: MatsuBonsai on September 25, 2011, 03:12 PM
Worked fine for me.
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: Elliott on September 26, 2011, 12:30 AM
Hi
 Nice tree and decent ramification. I have a similar looking tree and I had a hard time getting it to ramify and grow the way most of my other broadleaved trees do. If I let a young branch grow out 10 nodes and cut it back to 2 nodes, I would just get 1 branch growing from the tip in the same direction.
 By accident, I discovered that if I just let the tree run for 20 or more nodes until it developed flower buds, then cut it back hard to 1 node, I would then get better results with 2 or even 3 new buds popping out at that point. every time I followed this pattern of letting the tree run until flower buds developed and cutting back hard, I got the desired ramification, plus smaller leaves everytime and flower buds closer in. A side affect of this was the cut on the back and all properly treated wounds on the branches were healing up super fast from letting the branches run.
 After just 1 summer of repeating this, I now have a nicely ramified tree, smaller leaves, smaller scars and flowering very close up. By next summer, the tree will be able to flower within the branch silhouette.
 Most crape bonsai I have seen in bloom usually had the blooms at the end of 20 or 30 nodes and this destroyed the shape of the tree.
 My tree is also as fat as it is tall with that nice muscleling and it is hard to find a pot that is oval and on the shallow side but also deep enough. If Don has a pot for you, snap it up! It might be a while before you find another
 Post more pics of it when you get it repotted.
 
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: Judy on September 26, 2011, 08:00 AM
It appears that the hack came from bonsaisite, which I had visited just prior to viewing this thread.  Sorry to cast negatives on this amazing tree.  I can't even imagine working on something this enormous. The thinking must be on a whole new scale...
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: bwaynef on September 26, 2011, 08:59 AM
It appears that the hack came from bonsaisite, which I had visited just prior to viewing this thread.  Sorry to cast negatives on this amazing tree.  I can't even imagine working on something this enormous. The thinking must be on a whole new scale...

Thanks for clearing that up.


Elliott, start a new thread on your tree/observations.  I'd like to see what you've been able to build.
Title: Re: Huge Sumo Crape Myrtle
Post by: Elliott on September 27, 2011, 12:18 AM
Sure, as soon as I figure out how to post pics! Fortunatly, I think Im better at Bonsai than windows vista!