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General Category => Deciduous Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: Stebry on January 18, 2015, 12:29 PM

Title: Collected Fraxinus
Post by: Stebry on January 18, 2015, 12:29 PM
Hello all -

Two years ago I collected this Fraxinus, it's been growing in this plastic tub since.  I'm planning on doing the first major work on it this coming spring....still several months away for us in MN. Didn't know it was an Ash when I collected as it was early spring when I dug it up.  I've heard Ash are difficult to train into Bonsai.  None the less I'm going to give it a go.

Anyone have thoughts on Ash as Bonsai?

Comments on next steps?  Easy answers are remove the prop root, dress the saw cuts. Thinking about cutting back to the lowest branch, looking for feedback.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Collected Fraxinus
Post by: Judy on January 18, 2015, 05:10 PM
Neat trunk, I would look and see if the planting angle can be changes quite a bit to the right.
Title: Re: Collected Fraxinus
Post by: bwaynef on January 23, 2015, 02:16 PM
I'm not sure how I missed this post.  That is a very impressive trunk.  I'd consider planting it tilted toward the right as was suggested if possible.  (Any idea how well/if Ashes layer?)

I have no experience with Ash, but I hope you'll let us follow along with this one.
Title: Re: Collected Fraxinus
Post by: Jerry Norbury on January 23, 2015, 04:54 PM
Ash make great bonsai.

Yours looks great - but I'd chop it even lower.
Title: Re: Collected Fraxinus
Post by: Stebry on January 24, 2015, 10:57 AM
Thanks all for the feedback!  Found this tree growing in the side of a very steep bank over a creek (which I fell into while collecting). I think the steep angle of the bank led to the trunk movement.

Great minds think alike....My plan for this spring is to cut back to the lowest branch, and repot tilting clockwise as pictured.

Will update once spring comes.
Title: Re: Collected Fraxinus
Post by: Jerry Norbury on January 24, 2015, 12:37 PM
I'd cut it lower still. That right angle is always going to be a problem - so I'd go a couple of inches below that.
Title: Re: Collected Fraxinus
Post by: J.Kent on January 24, 2015, 04:58 PM
Maybe this much:

Title: Re: Collected Fraxinus
Post by: Jerry Norbury on January 24, 2015, 06:23 PM
Yes - but I wouldn't bring the angle up as much as you did - I preferred the semi-cascade.
Title: Re: Collected Fraxinus
Post by: Stebry on January 25, 2015, 10:46 AM
J.Kent - thanks for the virtual, very cool!

In Minnesota spring is a few months away still, I have time to think about design options. I'm probably going to play it safe and cut back to the lowest branch first, and see where new back buds emerge and decide from there.

I'll post pics again in spring.
Title: Re: Collected Fraxinus
Post by: Potawatomi13 on April 27, 2015, 05:38 AM
Hello all -

Two years ago I collected this Fraxinus, it's been growing in this plastic tub since.  I'm planning on doing the first major work on it this coming spring....still several months away for us in MN. Didn't know it was an Ash when I collected as it was early spring when I dug it up.  I've heard Ash are difficult to train into Bonsai.  None the less I'm going to give it a go.

Anyone have thoughts on Ash as Bonsai?

Comments on next steps?  Easy answers are remove the prop root, dress the saw cuts. Thinking about cutting back to the lowest branch, looking for feedback.

Thanks!

Great trunk to start with!  I wouldn't worry about the angles in the trunk as yamadori develop with greater angles than we can normally do and they look GREAT.  I'd cut back so as to leave the bottom 3 branches at least for now.  You can always shorten it more later if desired.  You can also notch and bend that upper straight part a bit. Not sure but maybe leaning it to the right would be a good way to go.  Since this isn't going to be a formal upright what you'll not want is having the trunk go straight up OR parallel to the ground. These should both be at some other angle and leaning will do that.  You've got a great starter. 8)
Title: Re: Collected Fraxinus
Post by: Potawatomi13 on April 28, 2015, 01:51 AM
I'd like to ask you if you have any problem with leaf blight on your native ash trees? ???
Title: Re: Collected Fraxinus
Post by: Stebry on April 30, 2015, 12:13 PM
No issues yet, going into year 3 since collection.
Title: Re: Collected Fraxinus
Post by: Jerry Norbury on July 17, 2015, 04:00 PM
What happened with this?