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General Category => Deciduous Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: akeppler on July 17, 2011, 02:57 PM

Title: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: akeppler on July 17, 2011, 02:57 PM
Tis elm had been dug from a private home after it was backed over by a car. George Muranaka was contacted about removing the broken elm from the property. He said that though the tree was broken and battered it was not dead, so it was planted out in the field and left for a few years.

The tree responded well and grew new tissue over the broken trunk. nearly all the dead wood was retained for texture and the new trunk has grown over it like lava.

This is how the tree looked at time of purchase from Muranaka.
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: akeppler on July 17, 2011, 03:00 PM
I kept it alive till spring to inspect what was beneath the soil. What I found was a huge flare of trunk buried underneath. I was able to plant the tree much higher exposing this flare which allowed me to turn the trunk for a better view not looking so inverse.
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: akeppler on July 17, 2011, 03:03 PM
A large portion of the top was removed in an effort to improve the taper up top. The large knob was carved and reduced. The knob was needed in some repects due to some branching that would be needed to build the apex later. as it grows the wood will be further reduced as the branches become larger and lose the possibility of dying due to close carving.
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: akeppler on July 17, 2011, 03:05 PM
Once the basic design was wired out it is just a matter of time in growing suitable branches and increasing ramification on those branches.
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: akeppler on July 17, 2011, 03:09 PM
This is where the plant is today. Still has a long ways to go as far as branches. The definition is not there yet and I want more spacing between the foliage but need the ramification before acomplishing that.

The top still needs more carving and that will be done next spring before repot. I have a signed Japanese glazed oval pot that it will go in but that will be for an update next year.
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: akeppler on July 17, 2011, 03:16 PM
The work on this elm was started on Jan 11 2011 and has progressed to this 7 months later.
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: Larry Gockley on July 17, 2011, 08:17 PM
What a trash to treasure project. I like the base flare and trunk movement. Great job so far. Larry
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: John Romano on July 17, 2011, 08:51 PM
Hi Al,
I like that you tried this challenge and what you've done with it so far.
And in such a short time frame!
Damn you Californians!!
;-0

john
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: Sorce on April 05, 2014, 09:59 PM
Hey Al.

 Do you still have this ELM?  ID LOVE TO SEE IT NOW.  :o

Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: akeppler on April 06, 2014, 09:58 PM
Here ya go, picture taken couple weeks ago. Not quite three years in training.
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: akeppler on April 06, 2014, 10:05 PM
BTW, there is no wire on the tree.
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: Joshua Hanzman on April 06, 2014, 10:15 PM
This is a great progression, a real testament to how fast elms ramify. Thanks for this akeppler!

I do have a question though, could you elaborate on this part for me- The tree responded well and grew new tissue over the broken trunk. nearly all the dead wood was retained for texture and the new trunk has grown over it like lava.

especially-nearly all the dead wood was retained for texture.

how does this work exactly, could this be applied to other deciduous or any other fast growing (rather large scar high healing tree)? Do other people have a name for this kind of technique (i.e. citrication- scarring a tree to increase taper), this is the first i've ever heard of something like this, sorry if I'm bugging ya, I'm just interested in assimilating your technique.
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: bwaynef on April 07, 2014, 08:45 AM
BTW, there is no wire on the tree.

Except for that guy wire in the top third-ish on the left of the trunk (unless its been removed in the ensuing 3 weeks). 

I don't want to read more into what you're saying than is there:  Has wire been removed, leaving the branches we see in place, or are you shaping this one primarily through pruning (w/o coiled wire)?
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: John Kirby on April 07, 2014, 10:58 AM
Wayne, there is wire in the picture. May be removed after photo ?
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: akeppler on April 07, 2014, 08:38 PM
BTW, there is no wire on the tree.

Except for that guy wire in the top third-ish on the left of the trunk (unless its been removed in the ensuing 3 weeks). 

I don't want to read more into what you're saying than is there:  Has wire been removed, leaving the branches we see in place, or are you shaping this one primarily through pruning (w/o coiled wire)?

There is no wire on the branches as in coils. Yes there is a guy wire holding down a branch to fill a void. It probably has already set and could be removed now. I'll wait another 90 days though.
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: Josh on April 07, 2014, 11:48 PM
Not that it is a big deal, but there is wire "as in coils" on a right branch half way up.  Nice tree
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: akeppler on April 08, 2014, 12:23 AM
April fool, there is wire all over it.

Eventhough the picture was taken on March 16, and "all" the fall wire is off the tree for the yearly Fresno exhibit this weekend, I lied as it is all still there....

can't pull one over on you guys.

Has it really come to this on internet forums now...
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: Herman on April 08, 2014, 04:32 AM
I really like this tree's rugged beauty, for what it's worth.

wire or no wire  ::)

kind regards
Herman

Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: Sorce on April 08, 2014, 06:18 AM
This is a great progression, a real testament to how fast elms ramify. Thanks for this akeppler!

I do have a question though, could you elaborate on this part for me- The tree responded well and grew new tissue over the broken trunk. nearly all the dead wood was retained for texture and the new trunk has grown over it like lava.

especially-nearly all the dead wood was retained for texture.

how does this work exactly, could this be applied to other deciduous or any other fast growing (rather large scar high healing tree)? Do other people have a name for this kind of technique (i.e. citrication- scarring a tree to increase taper), this is the first i've ever heard of something like this, sorry if I'm bugging ya, I'm just interested in assimilating your technique.

Good one Al. I was looking forward to hearing about this "lava" too.

Wicked tree if it went unmentioned!
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: Herman on April 09, 2014, 02:41 AM
did it ever dawn on you guys that he is talking about the callous that is rolling?

regards
Herman
Title: Re:
Post by: Joshua Hanzman on April 09, 2014, 10:17 AM
Did it dawn on you that w wouldn't have asked the question if we understood what he meant?

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Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: akeppler on April 09, 2014, 03:47 PM
Sorry I don't come here every day. Herman is right on the money. I thought the lava flow was self evident in the photo. To some yes, others not so much.
Title: Re:
Post by: Herman on April 10, 2014, 02:23 AM
Did it dawn on you that w wouldn't have asked the question if we understood what he meant?

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It did dawn on me, that's why I answered. didn't mean anything by it  ???

regards
Herman
Title: Re:
Post by: Joshua Hanzman on April 12, 2014, 12:33 AM
Akeppler, i am definitely a beginner, and as such have only ever heard of removing branches flush to prevent unwanted bulges, but now in retrospect it makes sense that one can then also leave the wood non flush to create a wanted bulge. Something similar to what i have heard called citricication?

 Herman, no problem at all, I'm sure you meant nothing by it, my use of it was meant in the exact same way, albeit a little curt, sorry about that =/

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Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: Herman on April 14, 2014, 07:42 AM
no harm no foul buddy :)

regards
Herman
Title: Re: Chuin Elm Project
Post by: scereghino on November 28, 2016, 03:18 AM
This is such a great progression, any updates?