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rmcninch108

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Chinese Elm and Juniper
« on: December 31, 2014, 08:51 AM »
Hello
I am new to Bonsai care and wanted to post some questions on the placement and care. The first is about the chinese elm . I live in the midlands of SC in zone 8a. I was told the elm needs to be outside or in my garage until spring.I just recieved my tree by mail the other day. It has dark green leaves and light green sprouts coming out. My intent was to have indoor plants but was told the elm needed to experience all four seasons.I also bought a Juniper yesterday at a local nursery. (Procumbens nana.) Thanks for any help. I have always been drawn to the Bonsai and am excited to get started. I have the Elm in the garage now ,close to a window facing west.The Juniper is in the house now with filtered morning sun. The local store where I got the Juniper had it indoors. Should I move it to the garage also for a week or so and then move both outside on the deck . It is facing East/South East. Thanks for any help.Robert
 

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Re: Chinese Elm and Juniper
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2014, 09:15 AM »
Both should be kept outdoors. They can be brought into the garage when temps are below freezing. . They must experience dormancy.
 

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Re: Chinese Elm and Juniper
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2014, 11:22 AM »
If the elm is pushing new growth right now, you can get by with keeping it indoors for now.  If you keep it outdoors, the new light green growth will likely be killed if subjected to freezes and frost.  Keeping it outdoors MAY force it to go dormant before spring.

If it were mine, I'd protect it as best as I can ...outdoors.

The juniper needs to be put outdoors.
 

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Re: Chinese Elm and Juniper
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2014, 02:51 PM »
 Yeah! What they said!
 

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Re: Chinese Elm and Juniper
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2015, 12:35 PM »
I live the other side of the pond in zone 8a in Amsterdam.

I overwinter Chinese elms outside in a cold greenhouse which I heat whenever the temperature looks like going below -5C (23F in old money). It is only heated to freezing point.

Junipers are outside with no protection.

It sounds like your Chinese elm has been kept somewhere warm-ish - otherwise it would not be breaking out into the new year's leaves. I find this to be the most fragile point with Chinese elms - so be careful that it doesn't get a solid freeze. In my experience that can be fatal.

I have over 50 Chinese elms.... https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=Chinese%20elm&user_id=47343585%40N00&sort=date-posted-desc
 

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Re: Chinese Elm and Juniper
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2015, 01:14 PM »
Thanks for the help. You have quite the collection . They are beautiful. I move mine outside today ,the elm and the juniper to the outside deck with morning til 2 pm sunshine. They are in the corner protected from winds. Here are a photo . Thanks for everyones input.
 

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Re: Chinese Elm and Juniper
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2015, 01:16 PM »
Here is another photo.
 

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Re: Chinese Elm and Juniper
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2015, 03:33 PM »
Thanks for the link to your collection photos, it is a very nice collection, and nicely documented.
 

Jerry Norbury

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Re: Chinese Elm and Juniper
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2015, 03:48 PM »
I have a number of progression sets there on Flickr here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/norbury/sets/

Anything album beginning with "BP" is a bonsai progression.
 

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Re: Chinese Elm and Juniper
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2015, 09:06 PM »
 Jerry. You don't let the elms get below 23 degrees Fahrenheit?  I haven't had any die and mine saw below zero for over a month last year. Was I just lucky?
Just figured it out on my own! I think. Mine are corkbark varieties. Seiju and yatsabusa. The rough bark ones can take lower temps?
 

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Re: Chinese Elm and Juniper
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2015, 07:28 AM »
You got lucky, but it also comes down to provenance of the trees; mine are all relatively recent imports from China.

Over the years mine get more and more hardy and they gradually change to become truly deciduous. At that point they are certainly more able to withstand the cold.