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General Category => Deciduous Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: Steven on May 05, 2013, 11:55 PM

Title: American Beech
Post by: Steven on May 05, 2013, 11:55 PM
I have this American beech and have had it about 5 yrs. The last 2 yrs have been rough on it but it has leafed out and made it each time. Well, here it is now May 5th and this tree has yet to even start bud swelling. I have nicked the bark in the upper canopy once a week to check and it is still green under the bark. My one Japanese beech and 2 cultivars of European beech have been in full leaf for a month. It was collected 5 yrs ago. Been waiting for buds to swell and push as it needs repotted. Still in native soil. Any info, suggestions would be appreciated.
Title: Re: American Beech
Post by: Sorce on May 06, 2013, 06:11 AM
I'm in berwyn,Il. One of my elms is just starting to extend. It was repotted early, about march 28.    This extra long winter may have something to Do with it, as everything budded a month late.
I would consider getting it in good soil soon, let them roots breath, they might be rotting in that native soil.
Just two cents from a neighbor.
Title: Re: American Beech
Post by: Brian Brandley on May 06, 2013, 09:19 AM
I'm in Indianapolis.  I collected three American Beech in March, and they've now completely leafed out.  Just some info, but I don't have any suggestions for you.
Title: Re: American Beech
Post by: Steven on May 06, 2013, 09:30 AM
Thanks Sorce, Brian. Guess I'm just going to have to take a gamble. If I lose it I'm just out all the work put into it. Don't want to lose it. Managed to get good ramification of branches going and some leaf reduction.
Title: Re: American Beech
Post by: rockm on May 09, 2013, 12:42 PM
American beech are always the last trees to leaf out here in Va. They are very conservative trees--late leaf out, one spurt of growth, etc.

My A. Beech bonsai leafed out a full two weeks later than usual this year as we've had a very cold spring. If you've had temps bottoming out in the 30's and 40's at night, yours might be dawdling. If you're concerned, you might break off one of the terminal buds and snap it open to see if there is any green in it...
Title: Re: American Beech
Post by: Steven on May 09, 2013, 01:05 PM
Not consistently 30s and 40s but here and there over the past 6-8 weeks. Will give that a look. Thanks rockm.
Title: Re: American Beech
Post by: Steven on May 09, 2013, 02:31 PM
Took 2 terminal buds from the top and cut them open in half. They are green inside. Also where I removed the bud is green as well. Maybe it is adjusting to this climate zone finally. This tree is originally from South Carolina.
Title: Re: American Beech
Post by: Steven on May 27, 2013, 11:42 AM
It's dead. Could collect another one next year but doubt I will be in this hobby by then. Struggling to keep all my other trees alive as they are dying from receiving no sun light. Tired of fighting a battle I can not win.
Title: Re: American Beech
Post by: Brian Brandley on May 28, 2013, 07:34 AM
Hi Steven,

I sympathize with your sunlight problem.  We're renting too, and most of my yard is heavily shaded.  I've got all my trees crowded into a couple of relatively sunny spots, but it's still not ideal for pines.  It's not ideal but you can grow trees in these conditions if you pick the right species.  Honeysuckle and privet are invasives here, but they'll grow anywhere, even in the shadiest conditions.  Hornbeam and hophornbeam are understory trees and can handle shade.  Ficus will work if you have a place for them inside during winter.

Others here can probably suggest additional trees that do OK in shade.

If you decide to give it another go, I'll invite you on our Indianapolis club collecting trip near French Lick, IN again.  Sorry you missed this year due to the awful fog that morning.  Each of us collected four or five trees.  We went down recently and marked 30 or 40 trees for next spring.  There are tons (literally) of American beech there, but if you're having trouble I'd suggest trying hornbeam or hophornbeam that are also plentiful at the site.  They may be easier to keep alive in your conditions.