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Adair M

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Re: A zelkova project
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2012, 10:55 PM »
And, finally, the finished product.

I want to eventually put it in the white oval.  But I chose the green rectangle as a temporary pot because the white oval is so shallow.  The board is 3/8 plywood, and when I placed the tree in it, the nebari was a little elevated above the rim, so while I could have potted it in there, I chose to be safe and pot it in the deeper pot.  Temporarily.

I used screws because I thought it would be easier to remove them when it's time to do the next repot.  And, I found some that were green, so you hardly notice them thru the spagnum.

Oh, and John K., I tried to add some "undulation" with the chopsticks.  We'll see how that works out.

The frustrating part is that now it's repotted, and with spagnum, you can't see those beautiful roots!

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Re: A zelkova project
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2012, 09:32 PM »
Good to see this technique getting used more often.
 

Adair M

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Re: A zelkova project
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2012, 10:02 PM »
Scott,

I would not have known about this technique if you had not posted the link here.  Thank you very much!

I was a fun project.  Fortunately, the roots were already excellent to begin with, and hopefully, use of this technique will make them even better.

One thing:  I did manage to screw the plywood base to my turntable!  Fortunately, only two screws, and not very deep.

Oh, I didn't picture it, but I used two screws from under the plywood into the bottom of the trunk to secure the tree to the plywood.  One screw wasn't secure enough.  Two did it.

I was pretty well prepared with all my tools handy.  I'd say it took me about 2 hours start to finish.  Including cleanup.  It took longer to completely bareroot the tree than I had thought it would.  I did have a spray bottle to help keep the roots moist.

The only problem I had using screws rather than nails was sometimes the branches of the tree interfered with the back end of the screwdriver.  I had to work around that a little.

It's now been a couple of days, and the tree is budding out nicely.
 

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Re: A zelkova project
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2012, 02:54 AM »
hello, i am still fairly new to the world of bonsai, i just aquired a zelkova, it has some real potential i think. hopefully.
my question is the buds are beginning to form, but the branch structure that exists now consists mainly of 2 leader branches that are both upwards of 20 inches, should i trim those back before buds open and leafing occurs to encourage branching or wait and do it once the leaves are strong? i should mention the trunk is maybe only 10 inches and thin now. its only a baby, but i have high hopes for it. thanks for any and all input?
 

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Re: A zelkova project
« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2012, 08:07 AM »
Rkovo,

It's hard to say what to do about your zelkova without seeing it.

The people here are really helpful, but they really like pictures.  I suggest you start a new thread, and post pictures of your tree, and you will be amazed at the feedback you will get.

Adair
 

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Re: A zelkova project
« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2012, 11:07 AM »
Good Job Adair!  I actually did the same, kinda, yesterday to a small Shimpaku.  Putting a screw from the bottom of the wood into the base of the tree was a brilliant idea!  It would've made the job simpler!  But what I did differently, was I used a staple gun to tack the roots down.  I held the gun lightly so the staples didn't crimp the roots hardly at all but kept them in place.  Since I wanted a larger tree, I planted it in the ground and we'll see how it works over the next few years. 
 

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Re: A zelkova project
« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2012, 07:11 PM »
Chrisi,
I just asked Boon what he thought about your new technique, he said "OK?". My thoughts as well. Post some pictures and keep us posted.

John
 

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Re: A zelkova project
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2012, 10:52 PM »
Ok? then it is lol  I didn't take any pics of 'the procedure' and it's planted now.  I'll definitely post pics of it's progression. 


 

Adair M

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Re: A zelkova project
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2012, 06:37 PM »
Well guys, somehow I managed not to kill it when I did the roots.

I'm pinching back at about 4 leaves. 

What's next?

(You SoBs tell me what to do, and I'll... "Just Do It"!!!)

No, really, this has been a fun project.  And it appears to be working.

 

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Re: A zelkova project
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2012, 09:59 PM »
No pinch, let it grow, let it grow, let it grow. You are trying to get the roots right, you can reduce in the fall. Nice, why would you think that you had killed it? While scary, the root work you did was well done and appropriate. Nic. John
 

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Re: A zelkova project
« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2012, 10:39 PM »
No pinch?

Well alright then!  No more pinching! 

These things usually grow like weeds.

John, I knew I hadn't killed it.  I took the photos of my repotting back to the bonsai shop where I "rescued" it from and showed the owner, and he was upset with me that I hadn't done it there with him.  I told him that I was going to bring to his shop when I did the repot.  So, I told him the buds starting breaking on Monday, and he's closed on Mondays and Tuesday, and I couldn't wait.  C'est la vie.

Anyway, I'm really pleased with it.  I appreciate the advice on how to make it better.

Adair
 

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Re: A zelkova project
« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2012, 10:52 PM »
John,

What do you think about the idea of putting one of those metal bands around the area of the chop to prevent further swelling while the trunks continue to grow?  You know, the kind used for plumbing where you can tighten them with a screwdriver, and they kinda ratchet tight?  How to do it with out further scarring?  Rubber between the metal and the tree?

Ideas?
 

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Re: A zelkova project
« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2012, 11:52 PM »
Hi Adair,
They sell those clamps w/ a rubber gasket and the metal hose clamp all in one peice in the plumbing section. seems like that might work pretty well. Project looks like fun, look forward to seeing it progress. I recently did a v cut on a few zelkovas to start some brooms. be interested to hear how yours works out.

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Re: A zelkova project
« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2012, 07:23 AM »
I guess I'll have to cut the rubber gasket to get it around the trunk.  Shouldn't be a problem, though.

I'm going out of town for a day or so.  Will update when I get back.
 

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Re: A zelkova project
« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2012, 09:08 AM »
Looking good Adair! 

I know you can't style and repot the same yr., but letting this grow unheeded, won't it be difficult later to wire some movement into the primary branches?  Or is the plan to cut back, grow out, cut back for taper?

(Btw John, my stapled down Shimpaku's doing just fine so far LOL)