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bonsaikc

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"Urbandori" of unknown species
« on: July 11, 2009, 02:06 PM »
I had originally thought this might be Russian olive, but it isn't. It's part of a hedge from Pavement Ends, the entire hedge being about 20 feet long. This is the only plant that has formed any kind of single trunk, so I am happy it was at one end, not in the middle!

If anyone can help identify it, I would appreciate it. I will show closer photos of the foliage as soon as I get some pictures of them today or tomorrow.
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bonsaikc

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Re: "Urbandori" of unknown species
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 02:09 PM »
It responded quite well and has done nicely, so it was time to reduce the trunk to a better size.
 

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Re: "Urbandori" of unknown species
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 03:12 PM »
Chris, it looks like it may be some form of Japanese Holly, not sure the leaves are to small to tell right now.
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Re: "Urbandori" of unknown species
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2009, 04:36 PM »
Ken, I don't believe it's a holly, the leaves are fairly large and smoothly oblate. The new growth comes out in very long straight whips and is quite tender until it is the size of a little larger than a matchstick. I have wired the lower branches once and it has cut in. I removed the wire and am ready to go again, this time with higher branching. These seem to be quite non-apically dominant so I am taking it easy with hard pruning.

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Re: "Urbandori" of unknown species
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2009, 09:54 PM »
Chris,
Definitely going to need better pictures of the leaves. 
Frank
 

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Re: "Urbandori" of unknown species
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2009, 05:51 AM »
I'm guessing a wild Black Cherry: http://www.flickr.com/photos/norbury/3646998576/#
 

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Re: "Urbandori" of unknown species
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2009, 02:02 PM »
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Re: "Urbandori" of unknown species
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2009, 11:42 PM »
I took these photos today, including a closeup of the leaves. They are about 2.5 inches long at full size.
 

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Re: "Urbandori" of unknown species
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2009, 02:25 AM »
Privet - Legustrum.
 

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Re: "Urbandori" of unknown species
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2009, 08:36 AM »
I'm with Jerry on this one. We used to have a 12 foot hedge of this behind my house.
 

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Re: "Urbandori" of unknown species
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2009, 12:11 PM »
Nice material Chris.
I've seen some well done privet bonsai and this one is a blank slate. I'm sure you'll keep us current with your progress.

As an interesting side note, I remember reading some where that the privet is not native to north america, but was introduced in colonial days because the it was fast growing and the wood made a superior charcoal for use in making gunpowder. I could be mistaken though.

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Re: "Urbandori" of unknown species
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2009, 03:06 PM »
Hi Chris,
Suthin has one with the leaves shrunk down to about 1/4". Of course it is only 4" tall.......

Containers shrink the leaves well.
John
 

bonsaikc

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Re: "Urbandori" of unknown species
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2009, 07:21 PM »
All,
Thanks for the helpful information. I may be scouring the bottom of that hedge for other possibilities, since this one has responded so well.

Chris
 

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Re: "Urbandori" of unknown species
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2009, 01:36 PM »
It looks like what you have there is Ligustrum japonicum, Japanese Ligustrum.  There are many varities of Ligustrum, the most common are Japanese and Chinese (which has a very small leaf - usually 1 inch or less).  In my experience with them, the scars don't "heal" well.  Most likely you'll always have those large cuts, especially if it's grown in a pot.  They can be hollowed in time though and can add an interesting look of age. 

I'm sure you have different growing conditions than I have, but I've found that if I don't repot ligustrums every 1-2 years, they go into decline.  I don't know if it's a fungal problem, restriction of the roots they don't like, or what.  But mature and healthy plants will start dropping branches and eventually die.  I've learned I can't be lazy in repotting this species here.

By the way, both the Japanese and Chinese Ligustrums are considered invasives here in Central Texas and are frequently "culled" out of our woodland.  They're still sold in garden centers though, and I still really like the species.  It's kind of like a temperate climate Ficus.

 

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Re: "Urbandori" of unknown species
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2009, 04:18 PM »
I have a number of Common Privet as bonsai - the leaves reduce nicely.