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KimchiMonger

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Texas Ebony (Future styling suggestions?)
« on: September 19, 2010, 04:38 PM »
Finally acquired a Texas Ebony close to what I had envisioned!  Woo hoo!  Oh yeah baby!  Oh yeah!   ;D

No surprise I'm drawn to this variety as they look similar to another favorite of mine Black Olive (Bucida spinosa).  This Texas Ebony is 21" high and 20" across.  I took a couple of photos here for any input on it's potential and future styling in a year or two maybe?  

Thank ya'll for any suggestions and comments.
 

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Re: Texas Ebony (Future styling suggestions?)
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2010, 05:05 PM »
It is weak. Repot with supervision and let it gain strength before you "style" it.
 

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Re: Texas Ebony (Future styling suggestions?)
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2010, 08:12 PM »
Black olive is my favorite species also. As for your TE, I don't know how long you've had it , but TE's go through several cycles a year, and it may be between cycles. In the wild they drop leaves in very dry periods, and come back with a vengeance after a rain. In a pot, try to keep it moist at all times. That may be difficult in that shallow pot. It's hard to tell, but do all those branches have leaves? If not, you may want to do the bark scratch test to see green color under the surface, and remove dead branches. If you cut back extra long branches and water well, it should soon put out lots of new growth. After mine put out a lot of new leaves, I move them to a shady area so the new leaves don't sunburn. Good luck with it, Larry
 

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Re: Texas Ebony (Future styling suggestions?)
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2010, 09:36 PM »
John, thank you for noting it's condition.  Will also allow it to adjust and strengthen over another year and see how it's doing then. 

Larry,  thanks for the warning on it's behavior under certain conditions.  Great to see others share an interest in this variety and similar. 
 

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Re: Texas Ebony (Future styling suggestions?)
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2010, 12:13 PM »
the single most important thing you will learn in bonsai is to only work on material when it is strong and healthy. If you don't, you will end up with a collection of dead trees. John
 

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Re: Texas Ebony (Future styling suggestions?)
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2010, 01:06 AM »
As a follow up, I did have to treat the Texas Ebony with a little Safer when I found a few wooley aphids! OH MY GOD!  CALLED NT'L GUARD, LOCAL SHERIFF, MARTHA STEWART (voice mail - no surprise there) AND ANYONE WITH ONE DAY MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I. 

Water sprayed trees down the next morning before watering and fertilizing.  Came home this evening to find the aphids gone but will keep an eye on this matter as they are likely to return in a few days depending on egg situation etc.

This tree closes it's leaves at night and reopen in the morning.  Tonight I stepped out to find it sleeping after leaves were open during the day.  Good to see it's seemingly OK. 

I plan on letting it be for another couple of years to see how it comes along before doing anything else with this one.
 

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Re: Texas Ebony (Future styling suggestions?)
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2010, 10:15 PM »
Recently I came across these two little seedlings on Ebay and won! Well, actually no one but me bid on them which was quite fine with me  ;)

Will be great to watch them grow for another ten-fifteen years and beyond. Ridiculous how difficult it is to find Texas Ebony while living in Texas!!!

I'm already making plans to acquire seeds and germinate my own for future years supply.

Look at those two.  Sitting there looking pretty.  Just look at them.

Will ya just look at them! Sittin' there like that looking so smart and pretty....   ;)
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Re: Texas Ebony (Future styling suggestions?)
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2010, 11:41 PM »
The Texas Ebony previously (Pithecellobium flexicaule) now (Ebenopsis ebano)Fabaceae or Legume family.

The leaves folding at night...

 

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Re: Texas Ebony (Future styling suggestions?)
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2010, 02:37 AM »
Since taking the first photo of this little one, lots of backbudding and leaf growth!
 

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Re: Texas Ebony (Future styling suggestions?)
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2010, 11:42 PM »
I recently ordered 50 Texas Ebony (Ebenopsis ebano) seeds and had a 62% success rate with all now 1 to 3 inches tall.  I've chronicled photos and details of my method at a new site I created for Texas Ebony exclusively.  I've also included photos of Texas Ebony provided by members of this and other forums with their name on photo and link back to these discussion forums incase someone would like to contact the contributors. 

Within the pages I created are photos and information on Texas Ebony throughout the internet, Texas Ebony Bonsai, and growing your own from seed. 

You can find the site at:

http://www.lovethatkimchi.com/Texas_Ebony/Texas_Ebony_Ebenopsis_ebano.html
 

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Re: Texas Ebony (Future styling suggestions?)
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2010, 08:29 AM »
You contacted each person whose photo you're hosting on your site?  They said it was ok to use their pictures?

Because, if that isn't the case, citing where you pulled the picture from doesn't absolve you from copyright theft.
 

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Re: Texas Ebony (Future styling suggestions?)
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2010, 12:01 PM »
Hi bwaynef,

Great point and thanks for the reminder!  Good of you to point that out.  Since you brought it up, the remaining photos as of this Saturday 12/4/10 have granted permission and a couple of new ones have been added as I was awaiting permission on them.  

I was very surprised that a couple of major educational sites refused even after offering to pay for one time use of their photos at the new site.  So much for "educational pursuits" when I offered to link back or include any information they desired to have posted.  But we are here to respect web developers and publishers alike and avoid theft of copyright  as you stated.  And the details I continue to build on within these new pages are designed and intended in the same spirit so properly citing the sources will continue.  

The Tx Ebony site is connected to one of my largest cooking sites (nothing in common) but the Ebony pages have already made page one in Google out of thousands of indexed pages for various keywords pertaining to the tree species.  I expected that with the limited information and Google's insatiable appetite for unique content.  This will make searches for this species and topic easier for those as interested as I.

On the other hand I do understand those refusing to share their photos and concern for not having control over where the data ends up.  I've personally written a few short articles on niche cooking topics to have my articles dragged around from medical journals to adult entertainment sites.  Yes, my cooking information showed up on a adult site - I'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND THE CONNECTION other than the Asian interests. ???

While the majority have cited the articles with a link back to my niche food site, I've cringed at some of the places it has ended up.  No intention of contacting them as long as it has the link back to my home page and no one gets hurt.  But very strange results following the posting of personal thoughts on certain foods for sure!

I still have a dozen photos awaiting author permissions for posting but haven't heard from them yet.  They will be added if I ever hear from them.

If anyone here finds any errors in citing or has suggestions for the site, send me a private message within this forum as I'd love to hear from you.

If any of our members would like to contribute to the archive, let me know and I'll be sure to link back to the Disney home page.  Just kiddin'....

By the way, the seedling experiment is going very well with 31 of the 50 germinated seeds now 2-3 inches tall.  I'll be posting the 6 week old specimen photos in two weeks.  
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Re: Texas Ebony (Future styling suggestions?)
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2010, 05:29 PM »
Week 5 of growing Texas Ebony from seed.  Lookin' good...
 

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Re: Texas Ebony (Future styling suggestions?)
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2010, 09:14 PM »
I recently ordered 50 Texas Ebony (Ebenopsis ebano) seeds and had a 62% success rate with all now 1 to 3 inches tall.  I've chronicled photos and details of my method at a new site I created for Texas Ebony exclusively.  I've also included photos of Texas Ebony provided by members of this and other forums with their name on photo and link back to these discussion forums incase someone would like to contact the contributors. 

Within the pages I created are photos and information on Texas Ebony throughout the internet, Texas Ebony Bonsai, and growing your own from seed. 

You can find the site at:

http://www.lovethatkimchi.com/Texas_Ebony/Texas_Ebony_Ebenopsis_ebano.html

Loved that your site. Excellent work. Makes me want to try this species. Keep us posted. Thanks, Joe
 

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Re: Texas Ebony (Future styling suggestions?)
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2011, 01:00 PM »
The Texas Ebony (Ebenopsis ebano) seedlings are coming along well. Five seemed to of died off but before discarding them, I transplanted them into seed starter soil mix and two of them have new leaf growth - they might make it!

The other 30 are happy clams now enjoying real sun after being germinated and kept indoors November through end of March. Our winter brought temps in the low teens for a while with minimal sun. Unable to withstand much below 40 degrees, these were kept indoors by a large window as the only source of light.

The larger tree is the original 22" tall that was kept indoors all winter as well. Photo taken late February '11.

Texas Ebony (Ebenopsis ebano) at 4mos. follow the bigger tree.  Interesting how this species comes into the world complete with all characteristics of older trees with it's twice compound opposite attached leaflet pairs and thorns!

I've posted these and other photos at my site dedicated to Texas Ebony sp. here:

http://www.lovethatkimchi.com/Texas_Ebony/Texas_Ebony_Ebenopsis_ebano.html

Amazing nature and fun adventure.
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