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Mnmbjc
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« on: September 10, 2013, 06:53 PM »

Since jwp can be so hard to get I'm looking for similar trees to it.Does anyone have any suggestions to some pines that are more easily obtained?
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0soyoung
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2013, 08:03 PM »

P. pumila
P. Hakkodensis (JWP x P. pumila)
Bristlecone pine

are all 5 needle pines with similar traits. Availablility varies, of course.
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2013, 10:56 PM »

http://www.compare99.com/compare.html?q=japanese-white-pine&ort=Japanese-White-Pine-Sale&adid=iaCkp56sxKGTocbVyF6Jm8rWyF6CnM%2FHiaCdcKvD05KgmNTHkIianNXHkIGbocaI1m6ZlNbViZSalNOfzQ%3D%3D&baa=J  Has jwp seeds, grafts, and trees for sale.
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2013, 08:12 AM »

A native white pine which I like and grow is Southwestern White Pine, Pinus stobiformis. Tree is very hardy but has longer needles which would be suited to a larger size bonsai.

I see you are in zone 5 but you need to include your city, town or general location in your state. I live in a humid area in central MD zone 7a and have to treat the referenced pine with fungicide every month.  It should be fine temperature wise in zone 5.

I got mine from evergreengardenworks. Inexpensive and it will put you "in the game" with a white pine.

Best,

Augustine
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Dan W.
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2013, 09:36 AM »

Limber - pinus Flexilis, are another. Smiley
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0soyoung
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2013, 11:54 AM »

One more came to mind: P. strobus 'minima' has short needles, about the same as JWP
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2013, 02:49 PM »

I have a limber pine collected this past winter for sale.  Needles are short and very old bark.  PM me if you are interested.
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Mnmbjc
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2013, 07:06 PM »

I live in Omaha Ne and there isn't much here in the way of pines other than the eastern white pine in most nurseries.
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2013, 09:11 PM »

Try the internets.
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Dan W.
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2013, 09:21 PM »

I would take Todd up on his offer.

If that's not what you're after I have a few limbers as well, most of them will be high dollar trees. PM if you're interested.
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2013, 07:53 AM »

I don't recommend the trees shown on your link, They are going to be tiny and most likely have terrible grafts.

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Augustine
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2013, 12:06 PM »

White pines are not that hard to obtain, but do command a price.  I recommend NEBG for good grafted white pines for an internet source.
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