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General Category => Evergreen Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: Mnmbjc on September 10, 2013, 07:53 PM

Title: Similar trees to japanese white pines
Post by: Mnmbjc on September 10, 2013, 07:53 PM
Since jwp can be so hard to get I'm looking for similar trees to it.Does anyone have any suggestions to some pines that are more easily obtained?
Title: Re: Similar trees to japanese white pines
Post by: 0soyoung on September 10, 2013, 09:03 PM
P. pumila
P. Hakkodensis (JWP x P. pumila)
Bristlecone pine

are all 5 needle pines with similar traits. Availablility varies, of course.
Title: Re: Similar trees to japanese white pines
Post by: Bonsaiteen on September 10, 2013, 11:56 PM
http://www.compare99.com/compare.html?q=japanese-white-pine&ort=Japanese-White-Pine-Sale&adid=iaCkp56sxKGTocbVyF6Jm8rWyF6CnM%2FHiaCdcKvD05KgmNTHkIianNXHkIGbocaI1m6ZlNbViZSalNOfzQ%3D%3D&baa=J (http://www.compare99.com/compare.html?q=japanese-white-pine&ort=Japanese-White-Pine-Sale&adid=iaCkp56sxKGTocbVyF6Jm8rWyF6CnM%2FHiaCdcKvD05KgmNTHkIianNXHkIGbocaI1m6ZlNbViZSalNOfzQ%3D%3D&baa=J)  Has jwp seeds, grafts, and trees for sale.
Title: Re: Similar trees to japanese white pines
Post by: augustine on September 11, 2013, 09:12 AM
A native white pine which I like and grow is Southwestern White Pine, Pinus stobiformis. Tree is very hardy but has longer needles which would be suited to a larger size bonsai.

I see you are in zone 5 but you need to include your city, town or general location in your state. I live in a humid area in central MD zone 7a and have to treat the referenced pine with fungicide every month.  It should be fine temperature wise in zone 5.

I got mine from evergreengardenworks. Inexpensive and it will put you "in the game" with a white pine.

Best,

Augustine
Title: Re: Similar trees to japanese white pines
Post by: Dan W. on September 11, 2013, 10:36 AM
Limber - pinus Flexilis, are another. :)
Title: Re: Similar trees to japanese white pines
Post by: 0soyoung on September 11, 2013, 12:54 PM
One more came to mind: P. strobus 'minima' has short needles, about the same as JWP
Title: Re: Similar trees to japanese white pines
Post by: bonsaitodd on September 11, 2013, 03:49 PM
I have a limber pine collected this past winter for sale.  Needles are short and very old bark.  PM me if you are interested.
Title: Re: Similar trees to japanese white pines
Post by: Mnmbjc on September 12, 2013, 08:06 PM
I live in Omaha Ne and there isn't much here in the way of pines other than the eastern white pine in most nurseries.
Title: Re: Similar trees to japanese white pines
Post by: John Kirby on September 12, 2013, 10:11 PM
Try the internets.
Title: Re: Similar trees to japanese white pines
Post by: Dan W. on September 12, 2013, 10:21 PM
I would take Todd up on his offer.

If that's not what you're after I have a few limbers as well, most of them will be high dollar trees. PM if you're interested.
Title: Re: Similar trees to japanese white pines
Post by: augustine on September 13, 2013, 08:53 AM
I don't recommend the trees shown on your link, They are going to be tiny and most likely have terrible grafts.

Best,

Augustine
Title: Re: Similar trees to japanese white pines
Post by: Judy on September 13, 2013, 01:06 PM
White pines are not that hard to obtain, but do command a price.  I recommend NEBG for good grafted white pines for an internet source.