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ericrobinson

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Progression - Juniperus c. 'Wintergreen'
« on: October 27, 2009, 10:55 PM »
August 6th, 2007

I thought I might share a progression of a 'Wintergreen' Juniper I bought last fall. I like this juniper as it has mature foliage similar to a Shimpaku. Even when I trimmed it back hard I got very little juvenile growth. It responded with a great flush of foliage when I hacked it back to establish the primary branching.

As you can see from the photos, I chopped the top into a "v" and used the stub to pull the new top upward from a former branch. The stub will become a future shari once the new apex is set.

I found inspiration for my tree from a picture in Andy Rutledge's online book Artistic Foundations of Bonsai Design. The photo is originally from Bonsai Today so I'll link to it http://www.andyrutledge.com/book/contents/challenges.htm.  It is the 2nd picture down on the page.

It reminds me of the tall evergreens in Washington State near Seattle.
 

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Re: Progression - Juniperus c. 'Wintergreen'
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2009, 10:58 PM »
August 6th, 2007

This virt is where I'd like to go with this tree next spring. The third virt (pic) is with the top of the tree straightened out more.
 

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Re: Progression - Juniperus c. 'Wintergreen'
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2009, 11:01 PM »
October 18th, 2008

I left extra foliage on the top of the tree to help set the original chop. In the pics I've covered the top with a black piece of fabric.

pic 1 with top uncovered
pic 2 front
pic 3 right
pic 4 back



I plan to remove the top next spring...leaving a stub to make a jin. This jin will have to be made the proper size to keep it in scale as if this tree is a massive Washington state Spruce or Fir seen from a distance.  There are other branch stubs on the trunk that I'll have to jin keeping them in scale as well. More refinement of branching is needed.

Repot into a bonsai pot in 2009 or 2010?
Suggestions on shape/ color/size of pot?
« Last Edit: October 27, 2009, 11:07 PM by ericrobinson »
 

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Re: Progression - Juniperus c. 'Wintergreen'
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2009, 11:03 PM »
October 27th, 2009

Wanted to show a quick update on this tree. The apex is beginning to develop and I will consider repotting next spring as the top growth is rapid in the nursery pot. Thinking about an oval shallow pot in a dark brown color - planting it slightly off-center. I want to use Boon's technique to thin foliage pads instead of only pinching tips.

I did a virt of one of my pot choices (shallow oval). Another choice would be a shallow round pot. A third choice would be a slab but I want to reduce the root pad slowly over several repots so as not to be too severe and risk killing it.

There is a flare to the nebari area that is not apparent in the photos which will give the tree more appearance of age and a feeling of stability.
 

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Re: Progression - Juniperus c. 'Wintergreen'
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2009, 10:42 AM »
Eric,
I guess I missed this thread somehow. Very nice work so far. I hope your chop location heals like you want. If it doesn't don't despair. This image could be just as good with a proper jin at the top, although some might feel that's been "done to death." I like where you are going with this tree, however, I'd suggest considering pulling the branches down much farther than what you have shown in your virtual. If they droop immediately at the trunk, and then pull slightly more horizontal at the tips, they will show more clearly the struggle of an alpine tree against snow loads.

Chris
 

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Re: Progression - Juniperus c. 'Wintergreen'
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2009, 06:25 PM »
Thanks for the thoughts Chris. 

The dates go back to postings on another forum.  I like this forum and the civil and helpful advice so I posted the progression here also.  The thread here acts as another place to preserve the progression seeing that Bt is still not back up.

Good thought on the branch droop as many mature spruce show what you are describing.  The three lowest branches droop considerably  but intermediate ones need more. 

As the branching approaches the top would they be somewhat more horizontal?
 

bonsaikc

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Re: Progression - Juniperus c. 'Wintergreen'
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2009, 10:03 AM »
Eric,
They can be, but need not be if the top shows an ancient jin. Of course they should droop a bit less at any rate indicating a younger, smaller branch.

Thank you for your kind words. I hope more folk who were active at other forums will check in with us and find that they like a bit more cordial atmosphere where we raise the level of discourse and enjoy bonsai and each other. Thanks for being here.

Chris
 

Jerry Norbury

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Re: Progression - Juniperus c. 'Wintergreen'
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2009, 01:14 PM »
Eric

Lovely progression. Most beginners can learn an awful lot from this.
 

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Re: Progression - Juniperus c. 'Wintergreen'
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2009, 06:12 PM »
Thanks for showing what can be done with a good plan and some time.  Good work !
 

ericrobinson

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Re: Progression - Juniperus c. 'Wintergreen'
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2009, 11:36 AM »
Found an amazing rock I think I'll use for this tree.  The rock will compliment the "wild"  feel of the tree.

It is 28" across, 16" wide and has a slight scoop where the tree will be planted.  It even has three natural looking "feet" that it sits on.  In the pics I've included you can see the arrow where the tree will be planted.  As soon as I get the chance I'll do up a virt with tree and rock together...(or if someone else wants to try a virt, be my guest  ;) )

I'll do some drainage and wire holes in the bottom when I get a chance.
 

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Re: Progression - Juniperus c. 'Wintergreen'
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2009, 01:33 PM »
Quick virt
 

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Re: Progression - Juniperus c. 'Wintergreen'
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2009, 08:34 PM »
I like the look on the rock.  It fits well with the overall image.  I think a jin at the top would add a lot to the design. 


 

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Re: Progression - Juniperus c. 'Wintergreen'
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2009, 10:24 AM »
Hi Eric. The idea of planting the tree on a rock got my attention. I love rock plantings. If you need to cut a more suitable cavity in the rock for roots, heres a picture of a rock I hollowed out for a Texas Ebony. I got a diamond dust coated blade for my 4" grinder. You may have already done this, but here it is just in case. Good luck. Larry
 

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Re: Progression - Juniperus c. 'Wintergreen'
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2009, 10:31 PM »
Thanks Larry for the photo illustration!!  What you did looks great.

 I may have to modify the depth and size of the opening in my rock as well.  Did you drill drainage holes and what did you use for that?
 

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Re: Progression - Juniperus c. 'Wintergreen'
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2009, 07:45 AM »
Hi Eric. When I was done grinding a pocket, I put it on a level surface and poured a bit of water in to determine the exact bottom, and then drilled a drainage hole with a drill bit designed for ceramic tile. Looking forward to seeing your's "potted". Larry
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