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Title: Privet progression
Post by: Zach Smith on June 30, 2010, 10:47 AM
Here's a privet I collected last fall and potted directly into a training pot.  I've been building the branch structure since spring, and just did some carving and lime sulfur treatment.  Chuck Iker is making a pot for it, and I'll repot once it arrives.

Zach

Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: Jerry Norbury on June 30, 2010, 04:34 PM
Great stuff.

Round pot?
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: Zach Smith on July 01, 2010, 05:54 AM
Actually, going with an oval, though I think a round would work as well.  Privet looks great against a green glaze, so we'll give that a try.  Chuck sent me a photo of the raw pot, and the design suits the tree.  Now I just have to wait for it to dry and get fired.

Zach
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: bonsaikc on July 02, 2010, 11:33 AM
Are your privets evergreen in Louisiana? Here in Kansas mine are deciduous
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: Zach Smith on July 02, 2010, 11:47 AM
Definitely evergreen, though they won't grow any during the depths of winter unless we have a warm snap.  Last winter was extremely cold for down here, nothing resembling a warm snap.

I actually think it's pretty neat that they lose their leaves where you are.  I commonly leaf-prune in order to enjoy the great ramification once they're far enough along.

Zach
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: Jerry Norbury on July 02, 2010, 04:20 PM
They are semi-deciduous here (usda zone 8-9) in Amsterdam.

Mine typically lose some leaves in late autumn and then just before new growth starts in late spring the rest drop. Rather similar to Chinese Elm in that respect.
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: Zach Smith on August 22, 2010, 06:02 PM
Here's the latest, photo taken today.  My new pot should be here in a couple of weeks, and I'll post again once I repot.

Zach
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: Jerry Norbury on August 22, 2010, 06:14 PM
Looking great.
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: Zach Smith on August 22, 2010, 06:31 PM
Thank you, Jerry.  I appreciate your feedback.

Zach
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: JamieR on September 01, 2010, 08:44 PM
looking very good zach!

are you planing on removing the lowest left hand branch??? i dont feel it is necessary and will balance the tree much better, the open space it will create will make the tree flow!

great little tree, coming along very nicely!
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: bwaynef on September 01, 2010, 09:56 PM
Do these heal scars well?  Is their wood hard?
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: Steven on September 02, 2010, 06:28 AM
I know bottomline you can't kill that stuff  ;)
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: Zach Smith on September 02, 2010, 06:48 AM
JamieR, I hadn't thought about removing the lower left branch.  I'll have to "virt" it off and see.  Chuck's pots are arriving today, so I should have an update this weekend after I repot.

Wayne, they do have a lot of healing power, though with larger scars you may not get complete closure.  The wood is quite durable as long as you manage it, meaning periodic lime sulfur.

I've seen privet survive Roundup attack.  They are not easy to kill.

Zach
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: Jerry Norbury on September 02, 2010, 04:47 PM
I like the lower left branch exactly where it is...
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: Zach Smith on September 04, 2010, 06:31 PM
Here's the latest, photo taken today.  My new pot should be here in a couple of weeks, and I'll post again once I repot.

Zach
And the final shot (for this year) in its new pot.  Chuck Iker did a fabulous job.
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: Jerry Norbury on September 05, 2010, 04:32 AM
I think it's absolutely wonderful.

How big is it now?
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: Zach Smith on September 05, 2010, 06:27 PM
I think it's absolutely wonderful.

How big is it now?

Thank you, Jerry.  It's about 15 inches tall, trunk base 5 inches.

Zach
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: JamieR on September 06, 2010, 12:59 AM
virt is a little rough but this is how i pictured it, remove lower left and bring the second left hand branch down.
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: John Kirby on September 06, 2010, 08:51 AM
Zach, nice privet. This tree hasgood potentisl and you hsve done very nice work on it. My question concerns  letting sacrifice branches grow freely to improve the transition of tge trunk to the branch that now forns the apex and then forthe main branches. Have you thought of letting one brnchlet on eachof the lower branches and the apex to run wild, while still controlling the branchlets you want yokeepby pruning and defoliation? This would help to add taper th the straight piece leading to the apex and tbe too thin or straight bits leading to the first foliage on the branches. This would also help with keeping the sap flow up to heal the cuts.

Again, nice work, I really like tbe direction your little tree is geading. I would keep the lower keft branch for now, helps with healing thecut and is a uniques low branch.

John
Title: Re: Privet progression
Post by: Zach Smith on September 07, 2010, 08:32 AM
Zach, nice privet. This tree hasgood potentisl and you hsve done very nice work on it. My question concerns  letting sacrifice branches grow freely to improve the transition of tge trunk to the branch that now forns the apex and then forthe main branches. Have you thought of letting one brnchlet on eachof the lower branches and the apex to run wild, while still controlling the branchlets you want yokeepby pruning and defoliation? This would help to add taper th the straight piece leading to the apex and tbe too thin or straight bits leading to the first foliage on the branches. This would also help with keeping the sap flow up to heal the cuts.

Again, nice work, I really like tbe direction your little tree is geading. I would keep the lower keft branch for now, helps with healing thecut and is a uniques low branch.

John
Good point on the lower left branch, John.  I need the flow of sap there to prevent the root dying on that side.  As to your other point, since privet will continue to throw buds more or less where I can use them, I'll be allowing sacrifice branches tog grow in a few places to correct minor flaws.  One thing that's not apparent in the photo is that straight section leading to the new apex.  Because of the damage inflicted by the road crews, there's a minimal living vein that leads to the apex so I will let some wild growth happen next year in order to bolster the health of the upper part of the tree. Behind this area is a semi-hollowed out spot, and this too will need extra care.

Jamie, thank you for the virtual.  I think the tree could look really good that way, too , but I do have time and don't want to rush into redesign just yet.

Zach