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Dan James

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pitch pine needle techniques
« on: July 11, 2014, 07:08 PM »
Hello,

Here's a pitch pine I collected last Spring. I've done some general pruning, candle pinching and wiring. I'd like to get the needles much shorter. I've heard that they respond well to candle pruning, like JBP, in June, but I'm not sure if that's just false information. Does anyone have any solid info on these guys?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Dan
 

Dan James

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Re: pitch pine needle techniques
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2014, 08:37 PM »
C'mon, guys. Someone has to know something.
 

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Re: pitch pine needle techniques
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2014, 06:35 AM »
try decandling it? it looks like quite a young tree when one looks at the bark, so it's not a biggy if the tree does not respond well?

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Herman
 

Dan James

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Re: pitch pine needle techniques
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2014, 12:05 PM »
Thanks, Herman.

Yes, it's a young tree, but not very young.

I'll probably decandle it next June and see what happens. I was just hoping someone had definitive info or experience with pitch so it wasnt such a trial and error approach.

Thanks again

Dan
 

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Re: pitch pine needle techniques
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2014, 05:55 AM »
Does pitch pines back bud profusely from the trunk, and take a long time to go back to mature/woody growth from back-buds of vegetative/immature growth ? I have a Taeda that does this and after 6years of pinching the vegetative growth to keep it compact it has started to form mature buds that pushes 2inch needles... I guess a place to start would be to establish if it pushes one flush or are able to push two a growing season.

I know exactly how frustrating it can be to do the trial and error thing

kind regards
Herman
 

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Re: pitch pine needle techniques
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2014, 05:56 AM »
Came across this on another forum. Just Natural info, but hey.


Seems like folks are just starting to use these more.

Best of skill to you!

Sorce

http://www.na.fs.fed.us/pubs/silvics_manual/Volume_1/pinus/rigida.htm
 

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Re: pitch pine needle techniques
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2014, 06:24 AM »
 

Dan James

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Re: pitch pine needle techniques
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2014, 08:02 PM »
Thanks, Guys.

Both sources were great!I read them both and learned some new things.

I appreciate your time

Dan
 

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Re: pitch pine needle techniques
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2014, 03:49 AM »
Anytime  :)
 

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Re: pitch pine needle techniques
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2014, 04:56 AM »
All the time.
 

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Re: pitch pine needle techniques
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2014, 04:59 PM »
John Romano posted on another thread the work I completed on his super nice one as well as the aftermath of defoliation by deer.  Decandling a pitch pine will likely piss it off  ;D.  Then it will send out more shoots.
 

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Re: pitch pine needle techniques
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2014, 07:00 PM »
Some members of the STL club have pitch and I ask them at our next club meting in a couple of weeks and get back with you. JRob
 

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Re: pitch pine needle techniques
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2014, 09:20 AM »
Thanks Owen and JRob,

Owen, I'm likely to piss it off!

JRob, I'd appreciate any info, but don't go out of your way.

Thanks again

Dan
 

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Re: pitch pine needle techniques
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2014, 08:50 AM »
To clarify my above post, I worked on the old pitch pine in late Winter and did not decandle at that time.  I did remove a number of branches and did some needle thinning as well to aid in the wiring process.  This is becoming one of my favorite native pines.  Marty Schmalenberg has collected quite a few nice ones and also written about them I believe in International Bonsai Magazine. 
 

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Re: pitch pine needle techniques
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2014, 01:03 PM »
Pitch are very resilient trees.  I decandle every other year.
john