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jow

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Pinus radiata (Monterey Pine)?
« on: March 16, 2011, 12:03 AM »
Pinus radiata or Monterey Pine is quite a popular species in Australia by means of availability. It has been planted extensively as a timber crop since the 1960's and as a result there are many escapees that find their way into bonsai backyards.

I am making this post to see if anyone on the other side of the pond grow them. I have been growing them for a number of years (see one such tree here) and have a couple of issues with them:

1. Needle length / need reduction techniques (long and twisted needles.)


2. Back budding. (none on older wood)

I tend to think that there must be techniques to achieve the above two points. I have noticed some years on some trees i get short neat needles (particularly on old trees that need a repot) and when used as xmas trees they will bud from stumps when the top of the tree is cut off at harvesting time.

Surely these behaviours can be forced to happen via some type of technique or using the right seasonal timing.

So if anyone out there grows them i would love to hear from you and about any techniques and or seasonal tasks you might do to grow this species in bonsai culture.

Thanks,

Joe.
 

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Re: Pinus radiata (Monterey Pine)?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2011, 03:54 AM »
here is a pic of monterey pine that i take care of for 2 years.  it is healthy and has long needle.
 

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Re: Pinus radiata (Monterey Pine)?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2011, 04:53 PM »
Treat it like 5-needle then?
 

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Re: Pinus radiata (Monterey Pine)?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2011, 05:41 PM »
here is a pic of monterey pine that i take care of for 2 years.  it is healthy and has long needle.

Hi Boon,

That is a nice tree!

My healthy trees needles look similar. That being said, I have seen weaker trees produce neat and short needles though which makes me think there may be a way to get them to do that when healthy much like candle pruning on black pines.

What care regime do you use on the above tree?

Thanks for posting.

Joe.

 

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Re: Pinus radiata (Monterey Pine)?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2011, 03:04 AM »
i plan to decandle like japanese black pine this year.  will keep you posted on the progress.
 

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Re: Pinus radiata (Monterey Pine)?
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2011, 08:30 AM »
Thanks Boon, Great to hear you are on the case too :-)

Many of us here in Oz are experimenting and growing them, and all the help we can re their care and growth habits is great.

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Re: Pinus radiata (Monterey Pine)?
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2011, 09:21 PM »
i plan to decandle like japanese black pine this year.  will keep you posted on the progress.


Thats great Boon,

As you are just coming into spring now you will be decandling long before us in Australia (as we are heading into Autumn) so it would be good to see your results before we enter our next spring.

I really look forward to your results.

Joe.
 

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Re: Pinus radiata (Monterey Pine)?
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2011, 08:44 PM »
i plan to decandle like japanese black pine this year.  will keep you posted on the progress.


Hi Boon,

I was wondering if you had had any success decandling your radiata like a black pine yet? I am very interested to see your results.
 

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Re: Pinus radiata (Monterey Pine)?
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2012, 11:21 AM »
The result is great. 3-5 summer buds are growing in each area that we decandle. I will post some pictures tomorrow.
 

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Re: Pinus radiata (Monterey Pine)?
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2012, 06:29 PM »
The result is great. 3-5 summer buds are growing in each area that we decandle. I will post some pictures tomorrow.

Thanks for the reply boon, I have tried the technique here in Australia and found it not so great. I only really got budding at the tips where the candles were cut. It will be interesting to see how your new growth developes.

I understand you will b ein Melbourne this May for the AABC convention. Hopefully we can discuss Radiata's in person then.

Talk soon,

Joe.
 

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Re: Pinus radiata (Monterey Pine)?
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2012, 07:38 AM »
Oh sorry,  it has been busy. I am away. I will take the picture when I get home.
 

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Re: Pinus radiata (Monterey Pine)?
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2012, 07:42 PM »
Thanks Boon.
 

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Re: Pinus radiata (Monterey Pine)?
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2012, 03:01 AM »
here is the result from decandling the same way as black pine.  I had a good result.  Jeremiah worked on this tree.thining summer growth to 2 shoots and removing old needles
 

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Re: Pinus radiata (Monterey Pine)?
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2012, 10:25 PM »
Thanks for the update Boon,

Did you find any back budding occured? I have found that they are reluctant to produce buds on wood more than a couple of years old, even after de-candling.

Its a nice looking tree by the way, they do produce great bark once they get old dont they!

I hope to meet you face to face in Melbourne in May!

Joe.
 

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Re: Pinus radiata (Monterey Pine)?
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2012, 12:06 AM »
Thanks for the update Boon,

you're welcome

Did you find any back budding occured?

yes, it but in the area that is about 5 years old area. i only have it for a few years.
 I have found that they are reluctant to produce buds on wood more than a couple of years old, even after de-candling.

Its a nice looking tree by the way, they do produce great bark once they get old dont they!

they have great bark  that is unique. 

I hope to meet you face to face in Melbourne in May!

Joe.
i answer behind the questions.

i am looking forward to seeing you also.
Boon