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VanceWood

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Nurserty Hinoki
« on: November 26, 2014, 08:58 PM »
Hinoki Cypress developed from nursery material used as a demonstration for the 4 Seasons Bonsai Club back in 1996.  I obtained this tree at a local nursery for $6.99.  Over the years it has changed as I have changed.  As it is now I am pretty happy with where it is going.  Hinokis are fairly slow to develop evern if you start with large material it is the trunk and primary branches that are slow to appear to age.
 

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Re: Nurserty Hinoki
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2014, 09:42 PM »
Very nice. Looks great. I'm sure the picture doesn't do it justice. Excellent results.
 

VanceWood

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Re: Nurserty Hinoki
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2014, 10:47 PM »
Very nice. Looks great. I'm sure the picture doesn't do it justice. Excellent results.

Thank You for your kind words. 
 

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Re: Nurserty Hinoki
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2014, 03:03 AM »
Very Nice looking tree.
 

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Re: Nurserty Hinoki
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2014, 08:06 AM »
Nice Vance.

 I love the elegant trunk. And the way the first branch covers it a bit.

Can you not bend down that rollercoaster branch on the left?
It catches my eye a bit too hard.

Love it though. Moss color is great to make the foilage pop.

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Re: Nurserty Hinoki
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2014, 08:08 AM »
 Hi Vance! Is this regular Hinoki? Or a nana bought before they started grafting them onto arborvite? The very first bonsai I ever made was a nana I bought from a nursery down by you. That was 1986. I loved that tree. Lost it and all the rest 6 yrs later. Been looking for one without a graft since I took the hobby back up. They have also went up in price too.
 

VanceWood

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Re: Nurserty Hinoki
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2014, 08:27 AM »
Hi Vance! Is this regular Hinoki? Or a nana bought before they started grafting them onto arborvite? The very first bonsai I ever made was a nana I bought from a nursery down by you. That was 1986. I loved that tree. Lost it and all the rest 6 yrs later. Been looking for one without a graft since I took the hobby back up. They have also went up in price too.

This tree is Nana and was purchased in 1996 from Wiegands Nursery before they grew and rebuilt into this huge very successful supper nursery.  The tree is not grafted that I can tell and you are also right the prices have become very high, as has everything else.
 

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Re: Nurserty Hinoki
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2014, 10:09 AM »
The problem many run into with Hinokis in particular is the inability or willingness to chop and grow.  This particular Hinoki has had the trunk chopped and the top regrown four times.  If this is not done the thickening of the trunk will take forever.
 

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Re: Nurserty Hinoki
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2014, 10:12 AM »
Most Hinokis I see from nursery material have pencil sized trunks and branches not much smaller than the trunks.  The only way I know of resolving this issue is to chop and grow.  Allow the tree to grow out and maybe develop some smaller branches and after a time chop the tree again and repeat the process.
 

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Re: Nurserty Hinoki
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2014, 10:51 AM »
Vance, very nice.
As to the chop... how low can you go? How much do you need to leave?
With the chop, will it back bud on older wood?
J
 

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Re: Nurserty Hinoki
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2014, 12:54 PM »
 I have one that gets the chop next year. At the lowest branch. I'm sure they can take it. They're pretty tough trees. And no they don't reliably bud back on old wood.
 

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Re: Nurserty Hinoki
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2014, 08:52 PM »
I have one that gets the chop next year. At the lowest branch. I'm sure they can take it. They're pretty tough trees. And no they don't reliably bud back on old wood.

Mike is correct.  You can chop pretty hard but they do not back bud reliably on old wood something you must pay close attention to.  It is necessary that you continually clip back the growth on the outside of the branches at the ends so as to encourage the weaker inner branches.  If you don't do this the inner branches will continue to weaken and die.
 

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Re: Nurserty Hinoki
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2014, 11:33 PM »
I found a series of photos documenting the trunk chops over several years.  I thought you might profit from seeing.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2014, 11:36 PM by VanceWood »
 

VanceWood

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Re: Nurserty Hinoki
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2014, 11:35 PM »
here are the last of the chop photos.