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Owen Reich

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Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2013, 11:23 PM »
A forest or grove might be nice but hard to tell.  BNut has a ton of traffic and you will certainly get responses quickly there.  This forum has a lot of "Lurkers" and you know who you are....  Many people seem to want to use this forum as a resource and choose to view without commenting.  With your interest level so high, going to events and local bonsai suppliers often should help.

As for collecting, I'd love to go.  PM me as I'll be up for MABS in NJ next year.

Here's a white cedar from the IBS Convention in '99.  I'm helping a client find a home for it.
 

Neli

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Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2013, 12:47 PM »
Can you try to exchange the smallest tree with the back tree and see how it will look like?
 

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Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2013, 03:59 PM »
Can't help but notice you said they were collected "recently". Recent can be a relative term depending  on if you are watching the grass grow, or holding your breath, ;D. Were they collected this summer, and is that common in your area?
 

Joshua Hanzman

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Re: Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2013, 06:03 PM »
Larry they were collected this summer and that is common for the person who I collected with, he has collected in October according to him, and of the hundreds he's collected, he claims to have lost one...

Neli, I will mess around with the tree you mentioned later today on my computer, and see how that looks. If you don't mind, would you tell me why aesthetically you think that will work better?

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Joshua Hanzman

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Re: Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2013, 06:45 PM »
Owen, as far as my comments about the forum, I was asked and so really was being nitpicky, all forums really have the same issues imho. But I prefer this forum to Bnut. I have a pet peeve of seeing 300 views and no comments but in the same sentence I really do like this forum and just wanted to supplement my bonsai information.... I read a lot and would like to havmore bonsai at my fingertip s


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Owen Reich

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Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2013, 10:35 PM »
I understand.  I'm expressing my views being nit-picky as well.  I am here to help in part because i felt around in the dark of Internet information and messed up some trees quickly when I started and found. Most books to be a waste of time and money.  Funny that you want more....  Until recently you had to use a card catalog to find the two books the library had on the subject  ;D

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Re: Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2013, 04:09 AM »
Larry they were collected this summer and that is common for the person who I collected with, he has collected in October according to him, and of the hundreds he's collected, he claims to have lost one...

Neli, I will mess around with the tree you mentioned later today on my computer, and see how that looks. If you don't mind, would you tell me why aesthetically you think that will work better?

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It will give the illusion of perspective. Smaller trees are always placed behind in a forest, for this reason. Then it looks like that tree is far in the distance while in reality is very near.
This composition has good perspective
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Joshua Hanzman

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Re: Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2013, 10:55 PM »
Owen, right on the money with that blog! Exactly what I was looking for, what a great resource, six or seven posts in I saw a great photo progression on thinning out a procumbens, is that the same way I would thin out a Chinese juniper?

Neli, that is a great example of depth in a forest, I can just see a tiny herd of elephants grazing in the distance... I'm gonna make the change and repost the forest, let me know what you think...

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Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2013, 08:24 AM »
If anyone has an idea of how this forest could be changed, let me know...

In the virt, the trunks look pretty equidistant relative to each other.  Also, the right tree leaning back into the forest doesn't seem natural.
 

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Re: Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2013, 01:37 PM »
I know what you mean, those sharp angles seemed man made and contrived but it's not. I'm not sure what to do with that tree, I was thinking about turning further to the right to try to soften that right angle, not much more I can think of with that ninety degree turn...

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Joshua Hanzman

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Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2014, 10:39 PM »
I built a box for this forest today, and will be slip-potting them in there just to begin their roots forming together.

Inasmuch, I wanted to make final decisions on the placement of them, and would kindly ask your help again. Everything you all told was very helpful and I took your advice. I placed the thicker ones to the front and the thinner to the rear to maximize the perception of depth.

Bwaynef I think they look equidistant from each other because they were in pots next to each other and restricted from moving exactly where I would have liked them too. Also do you really think that bend look unnatural in a negative way? The tree came like that from the mountain and I kinda like it but maybe need to understand why it is a negative...


I will take pics tomorrow and post them up, until then here is another eastern white I wired yesterday...