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Joshua Hanzman

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newly collected eastern white cedar
« on: September 29, 2013, 07:36 PM »
Hello all! My name is Joshua, and I am a bonsai addict. Here are some eastern white cedar I recently collected, please let me know what you think as far as styling options or good/bad points you notice in these trees, thanks all!

The last photo is another cedar i collected as I had only take three photos of the other one. It is one of my favorites and I have similar informal upright cedars that I would like to make into a five tree forest, this tree has over a 4 inch diameter at its base, and a nice taper.
 

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Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2013, 07:51 PM »
Ugh, I'm sorry for flooding the forum 2 hours into joining, but I've been chomping at the bit to post these pictures, so here is another one of my cedar that really throws me off on figuring out how to design it. I'm thinking clump style, or raft style, it has this piece of deadwood on the base that really stand out. It also has five distinct trunks/branches growing up. So I'm thinking to do a raft style, but maybe with the deadwood straight up it could be a completely different tree than what I'm seeing, let me know what you think... This tree is so difficult to portray in pictures jeez, maybe a video is in order? Please, let me know if you feel like you understand what the this tree looks like from these pictures, if not ill try to post more or a video...
 

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Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2013, 08:10 PM »
The pics are very small. However, from what I can see, both trees look to be very nice with good potential. Also, it is important to let the trees rest for 2-3 years after collecting. If you try to work on these before that time, it could stress them further and you may lose them.

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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2013, 12:16 AM »
Thanx Rob, I appreciate your advice, I definitely will be waiting. Anyways next season I have tons of other material to work on, so I'm not that anxious to work on these. Having been a mass murderer of all of my best material early on (lucky pre-collecting days), I have definitely learned to be patient and wait...

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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2013, 08:46 AM »
I think the best course of action would be just to mail me the first one  ;D. If you're locating that quality of material starting out, you're doing well.  Be sure and look over the aftercare threads here and like October said, don't rush the styling.  Where are you located?  This is important for others here to provide feedback.
 

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Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2013, 12:45 PM »
I agree these look like good trees but hard to tell with the tiny pics. We want tiny trees not tiny pics.
 

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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2013, 09:37 PM »
Haha thanks both of you, I figured out my issues with pictures so I will be reposting these, and yes I know a place that has tons of really good white cedar, I'm located in central Jersey, the trees are 13 hours away north... Owen I believe we met at MABS, I roamed around with my gf @ the time Lauren, you were very gracious towards us!

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Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2013, 11:32 PM »
the pictures resized

Owen, just for fun, what would you do with the one you said you like? besides have it have mailed to yourself ha
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Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2013, 11:40 PM »
The other tree, this one throws me off design wise, it has 5 trunks growing off a piece of deadwood that looks like a wave with a scimitar coming off the end.
 

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Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2013, 12:55 AM »
Wow I like the one you posted in pics 1.2 to 1.4 ;D it has a lot of interesting features!
 

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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2013, 01:05 AM »
Sure, I remember the MABS event.  The thick "old apex" would likely need to go.  Tree needs a while to fill out.  Live vein definition will matter but a slant style might be nice.  I'm going to be up for Mid-Atlantic next year.  Shovel ready. 
 

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Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2013, 08:51 AM »
Jpeg 2 is a nice angle.
 

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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2013, 12:30 PM »
Awesome, thanx fellas! I want to jin that second looking apex on the twirly one, pics 1.1-1.3, also want to accentuate the curve by making Shari around it, where do you think the Shari should be, outside the curve? Inside the curve? So Shari about the tangent to the curve leading to the jinned second apex? What do you guys think?

Owen what do you mean by shovel ready, you going/wanna collect then?

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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2013, 12:35 PM »
Owen the informal upright you are talking about I was thinking about making into a forest with 2 or 4 others that are similar styled ( all informal.upright)  but drastically different in taper and movement. I think it would make a great forest, I'll post all the different trees here so I could get your advise...

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Re: newly collected eastern white cedar
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2013, 12:11 AM »
Hey here is my idea for the forest i told mentioned, made a virt, and it was a really good learning experience, seeing how the different types of triangles (I used green triangles to apply foliage) and direction the triangles were facing affected the look of the tree was really profound.

The 1st picture is one of me actually trying to physically put together the forest. Then the next is the trunk only, I took pictures of each individual tree from the exact same spot and cropped out the trunks only and then the last picture is me applying triangles of green to fill it in. If anyone has an idea of how this forest could be changed, let me know...

The last picture is a twin trunk hinoki I'm thinking about chopping off the small trunk to make a literati out of the nice trunk.