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Chrisl

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Re: My new acquisitions from the Midwest Show
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2011, 07:09 PM »
Thanks Judy!  That's real good news that the BCypress has the potential to backbud.  I could use it as some of my branches are a little leggy.  I'm about halfway done with wiring and now have to finish wiring so the bottom (where it's wired downward and then upward at the tips to develop pads) looks like a real tree as typically the top third have the branches going upward.  I'm fighting a bit at this point, as the way it is looking, there will be a gap...not good.  I'll probably wire it up as good as I can and then try your method next growing season to see if I can some more backbuds for further branch development and branch ramification.

I need to take a photo of the tree; tomorrow as the light is too low right now.
 

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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2011, 08:50 PM »
Here is a pic halfway thru, I got quite a bit more done later today so will take a pic tom am before I continue.  It's really opening up and adding more character imo ;)
 

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« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2011, 09:14 AM »
Looks good so far, I have the same issues with trying to wire without creating gaps on mine.  It's sort of a conundrum with the backbudding.  I need to beef up the branches, as some are thinner than I'd like, but if you let it just grow, then you loose the inner buds.  So I've tried it this year, to pinch all the time, except for late season, and let those ones grow.  We will see how that turns out for me.  I see you're about the same zone as I am, are you planning any winter protection?
 

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« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2011, 09:33 AM »
Judy, where are you located?

Chris, there are some good YouTube videos by Bjorn on Cypress, and Boon has a great DVD on wiring.
 

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« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2011, 11:13 AM »
Judy I'm hoping by opening it up to more sunshine, and pinching, I'll get some back budding.  If so great, if not, then I'll just work on making this look the best I can.

John,  I'll see if I can find Bjorns videos.  And that wiring was done after me watching that wiring dvd 15-20X LOL
I had a hard time with the thick g. copper as it's store bought copper wiring from Home Depot.  So getting it tight was challenging to say the least.  (As such, I'm ordering some copper wire from Mr. Adams this next week)
But at least, what do you think of the styling job John?  Do you like??
 

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« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2011, 11:17 AM »
Chris, the background on that photo is too distracting/busy, can't really see what the tree looks like!

One piece of advice regarding the cypress - watch those wires! I wired one up in early August and had wires cutting into the bark in less than a month! May not be such a problem now that the growing season is winding down, but mine still seems to be growing pretty well. I had cleared out a lot of foliage and haven't yet seen evidence of backbudding...but planning more clean out in the spring. We'll see!

Chris
 

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« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2011, 12:08 PM »
Matsu,
I'm about an hour south and east of Columbus OH.  I've been storing mine in a cold greenhouse over the winter.  I just really took note that during the last couple of weeks, when it was cool and wet, that it really took off, and is super bushy now.  Of course I don't want to do any pruning now that would make it want to put out new growth, so I'll leave it for this year.  Going to try to find a spot for it that mimics that as much as possible from now on. 

Chris, sorry, I'm not trying to hijack your thread....
 

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« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2011, 12:17 PM »
No worries Judy.  The more the welcome!

And Chris, I know!  I haven't made it to the hobby store to pickup a white background yet...it's on my list to do though ;)...just dawned on me, I have some old white blackout cloth that i can put up.  I'll try that today if it stops raining.

Good to hear about the wiring, it seems like such a slow grower that I wouldn't have a problem with the wire cutting in.  I'll keep a close eye on as i know, some of my wiring is a bit too loose and others a bit too tight.  Though my wiring has gotten much better, it's still needs work.  

John, I found Bjorns videos.  Not sure if you wanted me to notice his wiring techniques, or that he bends branches to hide leggy branches?  Or something else I missed?
 

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« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2011, 08:34 AM »
Keep practicing with annealed copper wire and you'll get better.  Good wiring should be pretty and effective.  Continue to look at good trees in person, online, and in good books and magazines and your eye will improve towards styling.  Several of Bjorn's videos cover care and maintenance of cypress, as well as a number of other species.  Boon's latest juniper DVD also covers some styling.
 

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« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2011, 09:18 AM »
Thanks John!  I did get frustrated working with cheap HD copper wire. And the alum wire is black and ugly too.  So I placed an order from J. Adams for some good annealed copper wire yesterday.  So hopefully that'll help.  I also signed up for a class starting in Oct-Nov on sat am's at the Chicago Botanic Bonsai greenhouse.  But as you noted,  I need to improve my styling technique and seeing other well done trees helps a lot too.
Thanks for the suggestions John!
 

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Re: My new acquisitions from the Midwest Show
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2011, 10:32 AM »
Flipping through quality show books (BIB, Kokufu, etc.) will help improve your eye.  They also seem to help Winter go by quicker.
 

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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2011, 07:49 PM »
LOL!  I sure hope it will John!  I have several I bought this summer that I'm saving for winter.  But I didn't know they made show books.  I'll check into them, Thanks for the idea.  I agree, looking at quality bonsais do help, both with ideas and styling. 
 

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« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2011, 01:14 AM »
Hi
 Beautiful tree and Beautiful Rayner pot. Can I be nosy and ask aprox what the tree cost and what the pot cost? Just an idea maybe? I want to get a similar tree and a similar pot. Ive been to sara's website, so I can probaly guess what that pot was.
 I live In the Los Angeles area and Ponderosa's need some freezing cold in the winter or they will eventualy die, however according to Ryan Neal, if you graft black pine onto it, the tree will take on the needs of a black pine and they do excellent here. Those wonderfull, contorted trunks have more character than almost all other pines I think.
 

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Re: My new acquisitions from the Midwest Show
« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2011, 10:14 AM »
Hi Elliot,

I don't mind at all, the tree was $120 and the pot I believe was about $160.  The pots just about perfect, but slightly too large as noted by John in earlier posts.  But it'll work for now and I still really like it too ;)

Good Luck with the grafting project, sounds like a lot of work.  But it'd be gratifying in the end to have a PP.  I agree, their distorted trunks and great bark really gives each one it's own unique look.
 

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« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2011, 12:46 PM »
John,  my copper wire order got delivered yesterday, and have spent last 2 hrs using annealed copper wire for the first time....I LOVE it!  I see why now so many people prefer copper.  Yes it's harder to put on, but using finer gauged wire, and the holding power is fantastic!  I really like the look too.  Thanks Julian Adams!

May I ask a couple of questions that have come up? 

1.  Can I cut off foliage off the tips of branches that are too thick towards the top of the tree now?  I did some cutback in Aug, but boy, on a few branches, the foliage is real thick and vigorous and the branch is also too thick to be up that high.  And I have several branches at the bottom and middle that look puny in comparison.  Should I cutback further now, or wait till next spring? (but remember, I want to repot into my new pot next spring too)

2.  Being that the density of the foliage in general is sparse, there's quite a few with secondary branches coming out on top of the primary branches.  I'd normally cut them off along with ones coming off the bottom, but am not sure I should cut the ones on top to preserve the foliage I have, and hope I'll get some back budding next year?

Thanks!