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Chrisl

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My new acquisitions from the Midwest Show
« on: August 22, 2011, 12:45 PM »
I wanted to share with everyone my newest additions to my 'collection'...a term I use lightly ;)

Pics 1,2 are a Shimpaku I did with Ryan Oneil in a workshop.  I got the Shimpaku at the show.  I forgot wire so it still needs to be wired.  All I did was thin it out and create the jins, which also need to be wired asap before they harden up.  The plan is to bring the large branch forward to complement the movement in the trunk.  The remaining branches will be new pads.  I'll shoot some pics after I get it wired up.

Pics 3-5 are pics from a finished Sawara Boulevard Cypress I bought from Warren Hill.  (I had only one 'finished' tree which I lost this spring do to my own fault).  So I wanted another that I can appreciate now, and that I can change the styling if I ever want too.  The pot is hideously ugly, way too deep (6") and inappropriate for this tree.   So I splurged on a Sara Raynor pot.  The color picks up nicely the color of the bark, and the ever so slight blue tone along the dots on the pot, picks up the blue from the cypress.  I'll repot in the spring.

The last two are pics of a 150 y/o Ponderosa Pine I got from Andy Smith.  It needs to establish itself for two years before any work, and repot in 3.  I love the knarly knot and it will be the focus point.  Ryan also gave me some future styling ideas that I thought were great.

The show was great.  Ryan is a really good teacher:  patient, funny, a great eye, and an outstanding fund of knowledge.  And to top it off, very generous with his time.

Chris
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Re: My new acquisitions from the Midwest Show
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2011, 12:47 PM »
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Re: My new acquisitions from the Midwest Show
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2011, 12:48 PM »
When I do repot the pine, I'm going to plant it more sideways for a fluid curve starting at ground level so it's not coming straight out of the pot.  Also lean it forward to bring the knarly not downward.  It'll also make it easier to get the final styling I want.

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Re: My new acquisitions from the Midwest Show
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2011, 11:58 PM »
Nice trees! I particularly like the ponderosa, but then I'm a confirmed pine-o-phile!  :D

I agree that Ryan Neill is an excellent teacher: knows a HECKuva lot, and how to communicate effectively too. (Like leaning one way and throwing one arm back the other way to illustrate tension between a tree's primary and secondary lines.) The Critique on Friday evening was the most worthwhile bonsai-related two hours I've spent in a long time!

Friday afternoon at the show I wore a little paper nametag saying "Treebeard55." Maybe we should all wear nametags next year with our usernames! ;)
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Re: My new acquisitions from the Midwest Show
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2011, 11:03 AM »
Thanks Steve.  I too just absol. love pines too.  Prob. favorite species for me, why?  I don't know, it's hard to verbalize.

And I agree, the fri pm critique was fantastic.  I too learned a ton.  The time went way too fast ;)

Nametags...perhaps.  Though I'm not a huge fan of wearing them lol

What do you all think of the pot.  Did I make a good selection for that tree??  I must admit, picking out a pot was more labor intensive than what I would've thought lol
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2011, 12:18 PM »
...What do you all think of the pot.  Did I make a good selection for that tree??  ...

I think the color will work very well; Sara should call that finish "ponderosa!" The oval with corded rim reflects the combination of grace and strength in the tree's movement and its appearance (bark, needles.)

I can't tell from the pics whether the pot size will be appropriate, so no comment on that. Otherwise, yes, I think it's a good choice.  :)
 

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Re: My new acquisitions from the Midwest Show
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2011, 01:07 PM »
Thanks Steve!  It's nice to hear feedback on things like this as it's an area I'm just starting to get to learn about.  The new oval is just an inch wider than the pot it's in now.  I think, the size is perfect.
 

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Re: My new acquisitions from the Midwest Show
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2011, 01:40 PM »
Looks like I've stumbled into the right thread. Pine is my favorite subject for bonsai as well. I think it's the contrast of ruggedness and grace that they naturally possess. I also dig that ponderosa. The needle color and bark detail is wonderful. They're hard to find in my area, and I've only seen them in bonsai collections. Seems like you're going in the right direction with the tree. I'm looking forward to seeing where it goes, but that'll have to wait until 2013.. ;)
 

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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2011, 06:01 AM »
Love that pot. Sara's you say? I was going to guess Dale Cochoy. Very nice either way. Looks massive, but only because of the low angle.

Great new materials for your collection. I, too, love the pines and I'm trying to love shimpaku (and other juni's) but have more trouble with them. It's an area I am working on. That's why our club programs and workshops are so beneficial.
 

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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2011, 10:00 AM »
That's a neat old ponderosa! Looking forward to seeing that one evolve. Same with the junipers.

I'm curious about the cypress - other than repotting, what are your plans for that tree? Do you consider it "finished" in a styling sense, or is it "trunk finished" and still in need of significant styling/wiring? Hard to tell from the photos.

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Re: My new acquisitions from the Midwest Show
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2011, 10:44 AM »
tanlu, I know, 2013 is a long way off lol  I can either repot then and style the following year or vice versa.  I could get away with restyling next year accord. to Andy, but the curator of the Chicago Botanic Bonsai collection told me to wait two years as it was only collected this year.  So I decided to go with the more conservative timing.  A true test of my patience LOL

bonsaiTom, the pot fits this feminine looking tree well.  Both Sara and I thought it was a well fitting pot, style wise and sizing.

Coh, the ponderosa was the most expensive bonsai I've ever bought.  But I just couldn't get my eye away from it no matter how many times I left...I always kept coming back hehe  So I HAD to buy it ;)
I'm so glad Ryan was there and willing to give me a direction to take this pine for the initial styling. 

Regarding the cypress, for right now, I'm just going to repot in the spring and keep this style till it outgrows it or I get tired of it.  But for now, yes, I consider this a 'finished' tree.  I will put some wire on some areas, and work on getting better ramification.  But nothing significant in terms of wire and styling. 

I got off work yesterday, and worked on the juniper for 5 hrs.  I've gotten the main leader wired forward and down.  Put raffia on it first, my first time ever working with raffia (Ryan showed us how to properly use and put on raffia.  I did a 'just ok' job, but not horrendous considering it was my first try.  I used 2 tension wires, as well as 8 gauge copper wire...another first working with large copper wiring.  I wired two branches with one wire, and came up just a bit short on the leader branch.  I underestimated the amt. of wire needed to go around the trunk to get to the second branch.  But it was so much wire and work I'm leaving it.  Lesson learned.  But the bones of the style is coming to fruition.  Now it's all finer wiring work for placement of smaller branches and pads.  This is going to turn out really nicely if I can style the tree to what vision of the tree I have in my head. lol

I'll post some pic updates later.  I need to shoot a pic now, and then again after the initial styling is complete.
 

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Re: My new acquisitions from the Midwest Show
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2011, 12:38 PM »
I like the Sarah Raynor pot, I think she has a good eye and incredible talent. For my tastes, it seems too large for the cypress, but that is just my preference, I am sure that you will enjoy it tremendously. A couple of things about the Cypress, they don't bud back particularly strongly. What this means is that you will want to be sure to keep the branches in scale, that is keep them as short as you can by pruning and don't let it become a complete bush.  By allowing the interior to remain somewhat lit, you will keep the interior foliage (and buds) alive. You wiringto frm fan shaped pads with foliage in depth also help with this.

Good luck,
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Re: My new acquisitions from the Midwest Show
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2011, 01:41 PM »
John, Thanks for chiming in here.  I too wasn't sure about the size/width in particular.  But Sara and two other vendors I hit up for thoughts liked the size.  This is what you're talking about right, and not the depth of the pot?  It was a close call either way.  I appreciate your honesty!  And I'm sure you're right too, I will enjoy it nevertheless.

May I ask about the Cypress?  Two things I've wondered about since getting it home.  One is the pruning part,  do I pinch or cut to keep it in style?  And two, (you're right, it needs some wiring) does this species branch out going up first, then wire downward and then upward at the branch end to form the pads?  Or should I wire it going downward straight from the trunk?  I don't know the normal plant growth patterns of Cypress'.  (I want to do it right from the start as, from what I learned being a judges assistant to Ryan, was that the angle of the branching needs to be consistent with the plants normal growth patterns)
 

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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2011, 08:28 PM »
It will grow upward. I think the key thing is to understand that you will need to get it on a cycle of foliage reduction, pruning, wiring and then growth. I think Boon posted a sawara here somewhere, the key is that you want it to be dense enough to give the feel of ramification, yet open enough to allow light, air, etc in to the core of the tree.

The key point is to wire it completely, develop the pads and then pinch and prune as appropriate to form the density and silhouette. If you don't get in to the rhythm of wiring, pinching, pruning, repeat, you won't get the tree that you expect to.

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Re: My new acquisitions from the Midwest Show
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2011, 09:10 AM »
Thanks John!  I appreciate the guidance as I've never worked on a Cypress before.

Any comment about the size of the pot while I have you here?  Too wide, long or too deep in your opinion?  I'm just trying to learn more about pot selection as this was my first investment in a quality pot.

Thanks again John!