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Kajukid

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Juniper project...
« on: September 03, 2011, 09:20 PM »
so i did this work about 2 months ago....the plan now is to let it grow some more and the wire it....ugh i need to go some type of club so i can understand more about branch placement...i just read books...lol..
 

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Re: Juniper project...
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2011, 01:44 AM »
There are quite a few great clubs up around the Bay Area.

http://www.gsbf-bonsai.org/gsbfhome_clubs_b.html

I did a ton of research into bonsai and then joined a club with a beginner class and a little tree, and they helped me along in the process. I feel like that's the best thing to do. Get started, but get started with good guidance. Otherwise, one is just trying to make small trees. Even though it might feel like a slow pace and you already understand a lot because of your reading, try and do exactly what your instructors tell you. There will be a time for drastic and experimental operations, but only after you get your hand held for a little while.

Your enthusiasm is fantastic! We need more folks like you in the bonsai community! However, it isn't a very immediately gratifying art form (it's been a good and tough lesson for someone with ADHD like me!). Take it slow and don't be in a hurry. I just had a revelation today that my piddly little first beginner tree could be with me for the rest of my life, provided I take care of it well. Relax and enjoy the ride!

Jason
 

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Re: Juniper project...
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2011, 06:42 AM »
kkid,

I totally agree with Jason (above) and strongly advise getting into a club that you are real comfortable with. Apparently you have good choices. It may take a little time to find the right one. Nothing like being around lots of people like yourself, same interests, and the hands on experience you'll gain. Be sure to get some good wiring instruction.

We sometimes jump into a project without the ability to see "down the road" far enough. After removing the branches that you cut off this juniper you may have lost the opportunity for a real good 'sacrifice branch' situation to fatten up the base of the trunk, which may have a bit of reverse taper near the soil line. If those two bottom branches were healthy and allowed to grow out well for a few years they might have improved the flare dramatically.
 

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Re: Juniper project...
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2011, 02:11 PM »
kkid,

I totally agree with Jason (above) and strongly advise getting into a club that you are real comfortable with. Apparently you have good choices. It may take a little time to find the right one. Nothing like being around lots of people like yourself, same interests, and the hands on experience you'll gain. Be sure to get some good wiring instruction.

We sometimes jump into a project without the ability to see "down the road" far enough. After removing the branches that you cut off this juniper you may have lost the opportunity for a real good 'sacrifice branch' situation to fatten up the base of the trunk, which may have a bit of reverse taper near the soil line. If those two bottom branches were healthy and allowed to grow out well for a few years they might have improved the flare dramatically.
thanks guys...i do need to start looking for a club...those 2 branches that i cut off were almost dead...they only had a little bit of greeen, nothin much to keep it goin...im planning on makin those into Jins...but thanks guys....
 

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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2011, 08:49 AM »
Get ahold of Boon, the BIB club has folks of all skill levels and material types, plus the club model forces people to bring and work on their own trees.
 

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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2011, 11:53 AM »
Get ahold of Boon, the BIB club has folks of all skill levels and material types, plus the club model forces people to bring and work on their own trees.
yeah i was looking at Boons website, and his class are a lot of money...so i dont know...ima keep looking around tho...thanks..
 

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Re: Juniper project...
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 12:06 PM »
His prices just for info seems to be the 'industry standard' for 3 day learning sessions.  I can think of 2 other well known bonsai artists and they are all around $600.  I found a local bonsai master that is less expensive, but I'm definitely saving a little here, a little there, to take a course from either Boon or Ryan Neil.  I believe this is the best way to learn the right way of doing things right off the bat and not wasting 15 yrs like I did doing everything wrong.  

Join your local club at the very least, you may find someone locally that you can afford.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2011, 12:08 PM by Chrisl »
 

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Re: Juniper project...
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2011, 12:36 PM »
Prices seem on par with every club I'm familiar with (http://bayislandbonsai.com/membership/).
 

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Re: Juniper project...
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2011, 01:24 PM »
Prices seem on par with every club I'm familiar with (http://bayislandbonsai.com/membership/).
thanks Matsu,...i was just looking at the website before i read this...i was looking at another website of boon's and thought that was too much money for 3 classes...i like the prices of this website...im just not working right now because i had surgery on my shoulder 4 months ago, so money is really tight right now....
 

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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2011, 04:23 PM »
Get better then go to BIB, it will save you a lot of money on trees taht really have no future- it pays for itself.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2011, 04:25 PM by John Kirby »
 

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Re: Juniper project...
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2011, 12:44 PM »
Get better then go to BIB, it will save you a lot of money on trees taht really have no future- it pays for itself.

what is BIB?
 

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Re: Juniper project...
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2011, 01:09 PM »