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Flat-top Pines

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rockm:
Before you re-invent the wheel  :D, "flat top pines" would fall into the "literati" category. Images like the ones in the pics are pretty common in Japanese ukiyoe prints and in chinese scholar art.

MatsuBonsai:
Rock,

You may have a point.  However, for a literati I would expect to see a gentle, graceful movement in the trunk.  The pictures that Jay provided don't necessarily scream literati to me at least.  Though, I did search for "Japanese ukiyoe tree" images and believe your point to be even stronger with those examples.

Hmm.  Then why aren't flat-top cypress accepted as literati?  Why the adoption (perhaps not widely, yet) of this new style?  Any why aren't literati bonsai more like the ukiyoe images?  Is it because of the long history and evolution of this style?  What are your thoughts?

Very interesting indeed.

noissee:
Jay, give those another 40 years or so and they will look like I have in mind. Being from central FL though, I'm sure you know exactly what I'm talkin about.

Rockm, I realize that this style would simply be seen as literati by most, and that's because it is. In the host of online pictures of literati however, I still don't recall seeing any mature flat-top styles.

Jay Wilson:
You are right Mark. At least for pics one and four. Like I said, I don't think these are quite the image noissee had in mind, but I woke up at 3am. and can't be held responsible for any posts made at that time ::) ;D

You know though, if you were to style a pine with an arrow straight trunk like these, and post it on a bonsai forum as a "literati", folks would tell you that the trunk needs curves -lots of them- to really be a "literati".

Hopefully, I'll find the pictures of trees that I would think of as "flattop" pines.... More like pic #3 except a hundred years older.

Jay

Mike Page:
Here's a Scots Pine I've owned for many years.

Mike

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