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General Category => Evergreen Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: Owen Reich on December 16, 2013, 09:50 PM

Title: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: Owen Reich on December 16, 2013, 09:50 PM
This 'Sekka' hinoki was featured in Bonsai Art of Japan Episode 9.  That was the original styling of the tree.  Last year, we repotted the cypress into a shallow container and it was decided the movement was to the left not the right.  The most recent styling entailed removal of about 1/3 of the structural branches and major thinning of secondary branching to compact the canopy.  A new BAoJ episode will be released next year that documents the most current styling.
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: 0soyoung on December 16, 2013, 10:55 PM
Love this tree, Owen.

Here the cultivar is called 'Chirimen' instead of 'Sekka'. It seems to be quite a task to grow one with a single trunk (not to mention a lifetime to get to the size of this fabulous one that you styled).
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: Owen Reich on December 17, 2013, 01:14 AM
It is my opinion that 'Sekka' and 'Chirimen' are different cultivars.  Iseli Nursery had them starting when I interned there and have been producing quite a few since then.  The growth rate is much faster on Chirimen and has a more "spirally" habit.  Sekka grows about half and inch a year or one inch if really happy.  Chirimen can grow maybe 6 inches. 

Thanks.  It's one of my favorite trees I've styled and looks much less stylized once it fills out; I straddle the fence on super crisp new school and classic styling techniques. 
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: JRob on December 17, 2013, 05:28 AM
Owen, Really nice. Your tree or a client's? JRob
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: bwaynef on December 17, 2013, 08:42 AM
Wow!  I didn't see the finished tree in that starting material!  What do you have to do to keep Chamaecyparis obtusa happy?
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: John Kirby on December 17, 2013, 08:45 AM
Hinoki Cypress. Doesn't like really dry or tropical.
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: Owen Reich on December 17, 2013, 10:36 PM
It is currently on a 5-10 year plan at Kouka-en.  Fujikawa-san wants it to have a massive base first so not for sale yet.  If for some strange reason importing a tree to America becomes logical, I will buy it.

Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: Woodguy on December 18, 2013, 08:11 AM
Beautiful tree! Just love Hinoki. They do really well for me here in CT, but its not that easy to find good stock. How tall is this tree?
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: Woodguy on December 18, 2013, 10:19 AM
Never mind. Just saw its about three feet on the TotM thread.
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: Josh on December 22, 2013, 01:06 AM
Killer job, Josh
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: Dave W on December 23, 2013, 10:46 AM
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I straddle the fence on super crisp new school and classic styling techniques. 

I’d say you hit the nail right on the head with the styling! Great job. I've seen Hinoki's in nurseries around Central California, but never for bonsai. What are your thoughts? Can they survive a spell of 100 degree days if kept moist and shaded?
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: Owen Reich on December 23, 2013, 05:07 PM
Survive, likely yes.  Happy, likely not.  Dave W, hinoki can tolerate mid-summer blasts of heat in Orgeon on black weed fabric and gravel if the media doesn't dry out.  That's for landscape material.  Bonsai are more sensitive.  As John said, they don't like dry or tropical environments.  They really hate drying winds and dust too.  I've never grown them there as bonsai.  I'll defer to locals.
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: John Kirby on December 23, 2013, 05:31 PM
I have four little Sekkas in plastic pots. I took my phone out to the polyhouse and showed the picture of this tree to them, I then chanted "grow , grow, grow". Think it will work? Otherwise I am on the 100 year plan......
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: Joshua Hanzman on December 23, 2013, 07:43 PM
this is such a beautiful tree and a great example of your skill Owen. Really a great eye in giving this depth and the feeling of a  giant tree. Congrats this is beautiful, there is a nursery near me that has some really beautiful hinoki for sale. They all look like bonsai possibilities, can I take a few pics and post them on this thread to see if you think so too? If you do like any, I'll spot you and bring it to mabs for you...
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: Owen Reich on December 24, 2013, 05:50 AM
Sekka like faster drainage in my opinion and a rest period of about 1.5-2 years between styling.  Much like other conifers, they like to regroup after styling and grow unrestrained for a while.  I fertilized the fool out of this one while I was here and asked my sempai to do so this year as well. 

It is rare that I like a Chamaecyparis obtusa in America.  I have about 10 now that are good.  Bought some from Meehan's Miniatures that were grown from cuttings and stayed in a container the whole time.  Bad graft unions only get worse with time fyi.  If they don't have interior branches now, they won't ever without grafting.  A final note is that field grown ones are often cinched tightly causing soil to mound above the root flare.  They are sometimes field-potted in Oregon so the root flare can be as much as 6'' down in my experience. 
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: Gaffer on January 06, 2014, 08:34 PM
You know Owen you must have spent some time on the west coast. Your tree looks very true to say a big fir. Well done.
Qualicum brian
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: Owen Reich on January 07, 2014, 10:40 AM
Spent 4 months in Boring, Oregon and visited Mt. Hood National Forest and the rain forest closer to the Pacific Coast whenever possible.   The latter is one of my favorite places.  The old Hinoki in Japan look like that too though  ;D.
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: Chrisl on January 08, 2014, 10:17 AM
I'd never heard of Boring OR before, had to use gmaps lol  That's one area I haven't been to yet.  Have you been to the Santiam Nat Forest off 22E from Salem?  Very similar to the rain forests of the Pacific Coast.  Great hiking area!
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: Owen Reich on January 08, 2014, 07:32 PM
Haven't been down there yet.  I was involved in a horticultural internship at Iseli Nursery in Boring.  It truly is boring aside from the massive nurseries there.  You can escape to Portland, Mt. Hood Nat. Forest and elsewhere though. 
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: John Kirby on January 08, 2014, 07:56 PM
Boring is Boring. Did you expect something else?
Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: Sorce on January 09, 2014, 06:56 AM
Borers perhaps.

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Title: Re: Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Sekka'
Post by: donmaple on January 10, 2014, 03:25 PM
Owen, beautiful tree. Offset in that new pot really completes it for me. Makes me want to run out and get one! But i'm afraid my climate is way too close to tropical. So thank you for sharing your wonderful work, I can admire and study. John Kirby, you missed your calling...you should have been a comedian! Still laughing.....Don.