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coh

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Boulevard Cypress problem child
« on: August 06, 2015, 12:01 PM »
I thought I had posted a thread here about this tree, but have been unable to locate it.

I bought this tree about 4 years ago because (1) I had to have a boulevard cypress, and (2) I liked the elegant trunk-line. Since then I've been learning how to keep it healthy and trying to encourage back-budding to bring the foliage closer to the trunk. I've had mixed success with the former and no success with the latter. The lowest branch on the right (first photo, what I consider the "front") is nicely shaped (see close-up in the next post) but the foliage is all way out at the end. I'm having a hard time seeing a decent bonsai with this branch on the tree and am considering removing it (and some of the other low branches) and going with more of a literati style...which may suit the trunk better.

Before I remove anything, though, I wanted to see if people here had any suggestions or thoughts. Owen, I'm particularly interested in your thoughts as you commented a couple of years ago when I posted this on IBC.

One thing I'm pretty sure I'm going to do in the next few days is slip the tree into a larger grow pot, to see if I can increase the overall vigor...which might promote some backbudding.

First pic, what I consider the "front" especially if the lowest branches are kept. Subsequent views show the tree being rotated clockwise.

 

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Re: Boulevard Cypress problem child
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2015, 12:03 PM »
Last two pics, final pic shows close up of lowest branch on right.

Thanks for any thoughts/advice.

Chris
 

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Re: Boulevard Cypress problem child
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2015, 07:27 PM »
Looked at IBC thread and I still agree with what I said on the "front" options.  Boulevard rarely if ever back-bud in my climate (TN).  The virt that Bill Valavanis had on the IBC thread was nice.

I think there are too many branches in the middle of the design.
 

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Re: Boulevard Cypress problem child
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2015, 09:41 PM »
Hopefully the snickers from those more tech-saavy will die down quickly.

Chris, the porcelain berry is doing very well.  About to style it  :).

I'd edit the design in roughly the ways shown for these two potential fronts:

 

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Re: Boulevard Cypress problem child
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2015, 12:54 PM »
Hopefully the snickers from those more tech-saavy will die down quickly.

Chris, the porcelain berry is doing very well.  About to style it  :).

I'd edit the design in roughly the ways shown for these two potential fronts:


Wow, it looks like your graphics program is on LSD!  :) Thanks for posting those, I'll take a look at the tree later and see how something like those might work with the branch structure (which can be hard to discern from photos). I'll also post a few virts that I've been playing around with.

I'd guess you've got about 12' of growth on that porcelain berry by now! It left hundreds of seedlings in its wake, and those seedlings have now re-covered most of the fence. Maybe I should go into business selling large-trunked porcelain berry pre-bonsai...

Chris
 

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Re: Boulevard Cypress problem child
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2015, 09:13 PM »
So here are a few crude ideas I've looked at. The first keeps the lowest branch. All I would have to do is figure out how to get it to backbud (or graft it or bend it enough to get the foliage closer to the trunk). Top would still need to be figured out. The other two are without the lowest branch...similar views from two different perspectives. On the last one, obviously the lowest branch would need some movement added.

I don't know...any reactions? Love? Hate? Other suggestions?

Chris
 

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Re: Boulevard Cypress problem child
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2015, 09:30 PM »
7187 is my vote.  What does everyone else think?
 

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Re: Boulevard Cypress problem child
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2015, 10:20 PM »
Which one, the first (the first two are both 7187)? The first is probably the closest to what I'd like to achieve, I just don't know if I can make it work with that lowest branch being so leggy.
 

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Re: Boulevard Cypress problem child
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2015, 11:13 PM »
Sorry, second photo (virt 03)
 

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Re: Boulevard Cypress problem child
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2015, 11:43 PM »
Sorry, second photo (virt 03)
I agree, but think the apex is a bit heavy.
 

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Re: Boulevard Cypress problem child
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2015, 09:45 AM »
I like the Second photo
 

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Re: Boulevard Cypress problem child
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2015, 07:13 AM »
I have to agree on the 2nd one and with the apex is slightly on the heavy side.

 

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Re: Boulevard Cypress problem child
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2015, 02:13 PM »
I agree, but think the apex is a bit heavy.

As I noted, these are crude virts...main purpose is to determine if the best course of action would
be to remove the lower branches and go with a tall/thin literati style. I didn't really pay attention to the
detailed structure of the top.

That said, so far it seems that people prefer the taller literati-ish style...

Thanks for the replies, any other input would be great!
 

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Re: Boulevard Cypress problem child
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2015, 06:31 PM »
I agree, but think the apex is a bit heavy.

... it seems that people prefer the taller literati-ish style...

..., any other input would be great!

I infer that Owen and others, including me, were simply trying to help you make the most of the direction YOU seem to have PREFERRED. In my limited experience, chamaecyparis are 'bendy'. I would have been going in a direction of radically bending the trunk to lower the canopy and compact the tree. I entertain the lower trunk being slanted to the right and making a sharp bend (about mid-length) downward with the trunk then moving more slowly to the right, and the canopy rounding, or cupping, upward as it nears the ground.

Of course, there does come a time when such bending is no longer practical - maybe this was a factor in you going in the direction you have with this tree.


« Last Edit: August 12, 2015, 06:38 PM by 0soyoung »
 

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Re: Boulevard Cypress problem child
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2015, 09:03 PM »
7187 is my vote.  What does everyone else think?

You nailed it.  And the apex is a bit too heavy, as someone else observed.

Zach