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Adair M

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Re: Blue Atlas Cedar
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2012, 08:29 AM »
Welcome to the forum!

The most knowledgeable person I know of about atlas cedar is Jim Gremel.  Will they airlayer?  I have no idea.  If I were in your position, I would see if I could contact Mr. Gremel and ask his advice.  www.jimgremel.com.

This forum, by the way, is a great resource.  You can learn a lot by reading the old threads.  (Obviously... that's how you found this one.)

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John Kirby

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Re: Blue Atlas Cedar
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2012, 09:43 PM »
There are lots of them around, mist have ugly grafts. Some big old ones, take work to keep compact, maybe Boon will weigh in and talk about them. I have just played with the conventional Atlas Cedars.
 

Don Dunn

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Re: Blue Atlas Cedar
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2012, 01:02 AM »
Thank You Adair I checked out his web site and it's pretty cool ! Maybe someday I can get up to his place and check it out. I live about  40 miles south of San Francisco. I have been looking for a forum and joined a coupe of others but they are general gardening type Forums with a Bonsai page, those are just not worth bothering with. I have already seen a lot of info that I have not seen any place else. And to be able to ask people about Bonsai problems who have so much knowledge is a remarkable gift.
 

Don Dunn

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Re: Blue Atlas Cedar
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2012, 01:10 AM »
Thank you John for your reply. The weeping Blue Atlas I have is getting very large.  I made a telescoping pole for it and keep training it up and turning it at the same time. They are very aggressive in growth. Most of the them I have seen are allowed to grow parallel and can take over the whole yard.  I do love them as they are such a beautiful tree. I really don't mind trying to air layer it because I have so much growth that could be eliminated anyhow.
 

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Re: Blue Atlas Cedar
« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2012, 10:29 PM »
Herman I sold it a few yrs ago. Now I can't find any good affordable blues to work with.
 

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Re: Blue Atlas Cedar
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2012, 12:32 PM »
when i studied with Master Mitsuya in Japan, he put a few blue atlas cedar in the ground.  then he air layered several branches.  they are about 1" diameter.  they started to root in a year.  we had rain storm.  all of them broke.  the wood is very brittle. (next door neighbor has a large cedar.  several old long branches snap and fall to the side walk during winter storm here in CA).  they did not have enough root yet and all of them died.
so it will take at least a couple year to air layer it.

Jimmy Inadomi in Castro Valley used to have a few weeping blue atlas cedar.  the trunk has better curve than the straight one.  and easier to wire.  it is hard to find a good size one in the pot.  only small grafted one available. 

Jim Gremel is the only one who field grown the atlas cedar in the ground.  if you want a good one, go to see him. 
 

Don Dunn

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Re: Blue Atlas Cedar
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2012, 06:23 PM »
Thank you Mr Boon
I think I will try the air layer later I guess about March, I live  in the Bay Area like your self. If I go up far enough to get a 3/4 to 1 inch branch then I will  probably  have a 6 foot long piece to air layer. I think that may be to much for the branch to carry and it will then fail. Do you or anyone have any thoughts about how long or if I should cut the end off to make it say 3 foot long?