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Don Dunn

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53 inch boxwood
« on: April 28, 2014, 07:12 PM »
My good friend dug up and brought over tow boxwoods he needed gone so he could work on his Japanese tea house.
The smaller one "if that term works for a plant with a five inch trunk) just has about five inch and a half branches going nearly straight up. I don't know what I will do with that one. The large one on the other hand is 53 inches tall after some initial trimming. The trunk is about 7 inches across. I really like this big one and I think it already has a pretty good shape. I like the Live Oak look for boxwoods the best. This one has three or four branches that hang down similar to an oak but I am not sure if they are shaped quit correctly so not sure if I should keep any of them. I know 53 inches is rather large but I tend to like the larger stuff. I'll post pictures and would like to have any Input I can get about these. Good or bad so bring it on and let me know what you think or what you would do with them. Is it trash or treasure?
I put it in the ground to let it get healthy and will make a Bonsai pot from Mahogany with a stainless steel screen bottom and dove tailed joints. I don't have a regular pot big enough and don't know where I would get one. Is this a dumb idea?
 

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Re: 53 inch boxwood
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2014, 08:10 PM »
You know I like it. ;D and  :o

The second pic looks to have some interesting branching, short that one giant one.

What a monster!

Pot idea sounds good to me. Maybe not full screen, but I forgot your climate :-\

What a monster!
 

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Re: 53 inch boxwood
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2014, 02:29 AM »
When you say short that giant one, do you mean chop it?
For the pot I was going to run some cross bars on the bottom to set the screen on and give me a solid place to tie the tree down to. Do you think that would be to much drainage? I live in the Bay Area of California. So our humidity is rather low and our temps are seldom above say 85 deg. We generally get an evening breeze off the ocean that cools thing off. Our winters seldom get down to 32 deg. maybe a couple of times a year. So over all our weather is pretty ideal.
 

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Re: 53 inch boxwood
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2014, 04:20 AM »
Hey Don,

  I meant chop it, just don't want Kirby to come give me a textual smack down!
Don't know if you could or should right now. I would.....but......

I can seee you keeping all them as in the first pic. A huge broom.

Just keeping that one low curver as seen in pic two. Something gnarly.

Or going back to that giant trunk and starting over. Something for 80 years!

But its quite hard to tell from the pics what everything is doing. I like the pot idea but if you can keep it in the ground, I would. But I guess it depends where you are going with it....I've always thought you were more advanced than me Don, be wary of my wild ideas, while they are mostly artistically interesting, they are not always horticulturally sound.

I don't know if you followed my boxwood in "expanding my knowledge" or "big box buys".
I beat the hell out of it since x-mas, and its having a hard time outside now, I think because its still soo cold here. Keeping my eye on it, want you to do better!

Nice to chat with you finally Don.

Sorce
 

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Re: 53 inch boxwood
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2014, 06:46 AM »
Don, interesting material. Somewhere in my head is the notion that Bonsai should be max four feet above the pot. Both of these could get there. The problems I see are not impossible. One you can get pots for this size... And as you would guess at very HIGH prices. But, until this is getting close to show quality you don't need it, plastic, wood  or mica if you can find it will work. The bigger problem (after you get your design) is moving this tree. It will be a two or three man tree....
Keep at them and try and take them to a work shop.
Just my two cents
Jay
 

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Re: 53 inch boxwood
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2014, 06:29 PM »
Sorce
My inclination is to keep it about how it is and study it for awhile. I think it still looks a little full for a Live Oak ,look a like. That gnarly low branch will  probably have to come off as it is at such a strange angle. I would love to keep it if it looked a little more like a natural Live Oak branch hanging down from it's own weight. There are a couple more low hangers but not near as large. I may end up doing  some shari but only after carful consideration. I like wild ideas it keeps things fresh and interesting. I lean more to natural looking trees I don't care for the extremely over developed nebari that looks like a saucer. Nothing natural looking about that.
I have to move it from it's present location as soon as I get it healthy probably this fall.
 

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Re: 53 inch boxwood
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2014, 06:44 PM »
Hello Jay
Nice to hear from you. Your correct and I would just throw it into a redwood box or plastic tub but I already have the mahogany and this tree is so large in its present configuration that I want to put it where it's going to stay and not have to repot it for awhile.
I think I will go ahead and build a monkey tree for it before hand. The other thing is my house may be on the Bonsai tour for our club this year and if that works out I want things as tidy as possible.
I looked it up again just to make sure and anything over 120 Cm is called  "Imperial. This is the largest class of bonsai. Trees are greater than 120cm and require three or more people to move them. Not many non-japanese have trees of this size."

That was a quote the size you are talking about is a" Dai
Very large. This category has trees of 75-120cm." also a quote.
I think even if it wasn't acceptable as a Bonsai I would still do it because I like this tree that way, we don't always have to conform to stringent tolerances.  I hope that didn't sound pissy , I sure don't mean to be rude.
I appreciate both yours and Sorce's input.
 

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Re: 53 inch boxwood
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2014, 10:29 PM »
Treasure. :)
 

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Re: 53 inch boxwood
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2014, 06:16 AM »
Don, I understand. Good luck with these. And, as always, keep us posted.
Jay
 

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Re: 53 inch boxwood
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2014, 08:04 PM »
Interesting piece. Enjoy the large size, but it looks proportionally like there could be a good bonsai at the 30-36" height range. Does it have a decent nebari other than the one straight root?


Has your back recovered?
 

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Re: 53 inch boxwood
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2014, 02:14 AM »
Yes,  John It had a pretty good nebari in all directions. I covered up the roots to keep then moist. My back is kind of hit and miss better some days worse others. Thanks for asking