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Chrisl

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My First RMJ
« on: August 02, 2012, 12:48 PM »
I've waited a yr to get a nice RMJ from A. Smith.  He sent me this pic, and I loved it.  He's bringing it to the Midwest show for me in a couple wks.  Collected in '09.
 

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Re: My First RMJ
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2012, 11:11 PM »
Lucky...

Chrisl, would it be rude to ask what that puppy set you back? 

If so ...say mind your own beezwax big d..
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.just wondering
 

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Re: My First RMJ
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2012, 11:16 PM »
awsome chris, looks great!
have fun.

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Re: My First RMJ
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2012, 11:46 AM »
Thanks Jason, I'm counting down the days now till the show starts and Andy brings me the tree lol  Btw, I like both the Pondy and the Azalea you're looking at.  For me, I'd go with the Pondy as Azaleas are very labor intensive, and sensitive to weather temps...which might not be a problem for you though in  Seattle.

Dave, I know many who don't like to say, but I'm not one of them.  It helps others I think, to put a value on bonsais, in seeing if they can afford something similar.  I paid $950.
 

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Re: My First RMJ
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2012, 10:46 AM »
Well, I just found out that a PP I bought last Dec from Jim Doyle died from this summers heat (he was going to bring it to our show for me as it didn't fit in my car)  So I told Andy that I wasn't going to get his tree and apologized profusely as I didn't know.  But with the credit I had, this RMJ was the same price as Andy's.  Very different trees.

 

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Re: My First RMJ
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2012, 10:05 PM »


Dave, I know many who don't like to say, but I'm not one of them.  It helps others I think, to put a value on bonsais, in seeing if they can afford something similar.  I paid $950.
Or what to charge...wink


thnks ;D
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Re: My First RMJ
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2012, 12:19 PM »
Well do you all think I made the right decision with going with this second tree?  It measures pot rim to top 48". 

And glad to be of assistant Dave!

Chris
 

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Re: My First RMJ
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2012, 01:30 PM »
Like you said, very different trees.
The second one looks to be more challenging but w/ all that great deadwood i'm sure you'll be able to get something very nice out of it.
is the first one not an option any longer?

 

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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2012, 03:41 PM »
Interesting choice. Can't wait to see what you do with it, a number of options, very different kind of tree.
 

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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2012, 05:33 PM »
I like the second one, but I really did like the first one a lot!  I'll have to keep my eye on Andy's stuff I guess. 
 

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Re: My First RMJ
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2012, 07:14 PM »
Like you said, very different trees.
The second one looks to be more challenging but w/ all that great deadwood i'm sure you'll be able to get something very nice out of it.  is the first one not an option any longer?

That's what I figured too.  And unless I can come up with the extra cash, prob. not.

Interesting choice. Can't wait to see what you do with it, a number of options, very different kind of tree.

The fact that's it's very different is why I like it so.  I'm going to get Peter Warren's take on it this weekend.  My thoughts so far are  what with the large trunk base, it can accomodate that large jin , though I'd prob. reduce it a bit, making it a bit more elegant looking.  Or make the tree much smaller for a more masculine/powerful looking tree.  It'll be fun to see where I end up going.

I like the second one, but I really did like the first one a lot!  I'll have to keep my eye on Andy's stuff I guess. 

Likewise Judy!  The first one was very nice, but 'kinda' normal, if you say that about a tree lol  Andy, like most of our better
bonsai nurseries have much more on hand than you'd expect.  My fantastic JBP I got the same way, spoke to the nursery, said what I was looking for, and my budget.  It's just that my 'budget' is always a bit blown by the end lol


 

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Re: My First RMJ
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2012, 12:42 PM »
Well, here is the tree after a workshop with Peter Warren

« Last Edit: August 22, 2012, 12:45 PM by Chrisl »
 

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Re: My First RMJ
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2012, 10:04 PM »
Nice, any plans in mind for this?
 

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Re: My First RMJ
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2012, 02:12 AM »
Well, I first have to finish styling and wiring it, with the vision that Peter and I envisioned. ;) Long term plans are to continue to develop the primary branching, as well as establish more layered, and denser foliage pads.  The main fault of this tree is there are no live veins in the front despite all the great dead wood.  So I hope to add more depth to the overall design.  And most importantly, keep it happy and thriving and deadwood intact.

And speaking of wiring, I'm really proud of the success I've made in my wiring work.  Much better consistency, efficiently ,  and effectiveness....this is definitely the best wiring I've done so far...which is strange in that Peter also helped me style a small Shimpaku, which I wired recently and it was embarrassingly 'not good' lol  Pressure and concentration helped a lot lol
 

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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2012, 07:55 AM »
Too bad about the lifeline, but that s just the way it is sometimes. It actually looks like this could easily be two trees, but one would need to see how the roots are structured. When you get a chance, and this is coming from the world's worst photographer so a grain of salt can be applied, could you get a photo from farther back so we can see the whole tree? Pardon the expression, but I have a few of these "pecker pole" trees, not an RMJ but Ponderosas and Blue spruce. They can be made into stunning bonsai, a friend has a blue spruce called the 'One-Armed Bandit' that is a single branch emerging from the trunk with the dead wood rising up. I also put the base styling on - blue spruce twin trunk with a deadwood trunk. When I said the choice of this tree was interesting, I really meant it. This tree is going to be difficult, but if done right, could be quite excellent. The question is, is there a way to get a front that has that very lovely lifeline popping up out of the ground near the front? I am sure that you and Peter had that conversation, only time will tell.

Nice to hear about the wiring, keep at it, it is like golf- you have to practice correctly to be good and just when you think you have it down- water hazard!