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Title: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: bwaynef on August 04, 2011, 02:39 PM
On a recent adventure into the mountains of NC, I had the opportunity to stop by the arboretum and take in their collection.  Its always fun to see which trees are on display, enjoying the new ones and looking for changes in the ones I've had the pleasure of seeing before.  This trip didn't disappoint.

I tried to get names/species included in the pictures, but I'll be happy to help out if some of those are a little hard to read.
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: bwaynef on August 04, 2011, 02:40 PM
One of the largest jades I've seen...
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: bwaynef on August 04, 2011, 02:42 PM
I love this Blue Atlas Cedar...
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: bwaynef on August 04, 2011, 02:44 PM
This first one was used as the logo for the most recent Carolina Bonsai Expo.  Eastern Red Cedar (j. virginiana) named 'Sentinel'.
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: bwaynef on August 04, 2011, 02:46 PM
I loved the pot this Virginia Creeper was in...
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: bwaynef on August 04, 2011, 02:48 PM
This shohin display is pretty representative of the collection.  There's certainly a Japanese influence, but done with an Appalachian spirit.
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: bwaynef on August 04, 2011, 02:50 PM
This hinoki was well-refined ...but something didn't sit well with me.  (The 1st photo in the next post ought to shed light on it...)
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: bwaynef on August 04, 2011, 02:51 PM
Does this photo (383) show well enough what was bothering me?
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: bwaynef on August 04, 2011, 02:53 PM
Check out this (Red?) Pine!
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: bwaynef on August 04, 2011, 02:54 PM
The forest plantings are a hit according to everyone I was travelling with.
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: bwaynef on August 04, 2011, 02:58 PM
The first photo is entitled 'Mt. Mitchell.' 
The 2nd photo is a picture I took the day before @ Mt. Mitchell (the highest elevation east of the Mississippi).


395 is a Natchez Crape Myrtle.  I wonder how old that scar is, and how much longer 'til its closed up.  Still, one of the nicer CM's I can recall.

396 is one of the nicest examples of Eastern White Pine (P. strobus) I've seen.
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: bwaynef on August 04, 2011, 02:59 PM
That's all folks!
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: MatsuBonsai on August 08, 2011, 11:30 AM
The mugo (0357, 0358) is really nice.  The blue/gray top dressing(?) is a bit distracting though.

The amur (0360) looks to be nice.

The limber pine has some interesting deadwood.  I think I would like to see it with a more rounded apex.

Agreed, the blue atlas cedar looks to be very nice.

The procumbens (0369) looks interesting.  Has the bark remained on and undisturbed?  

What were your thoughts on the maple (0375)?

I'm guessing the branch in the front (0383)?

Nice pleasing shape to the other procumbens (0387).

Black pine could use some wire (0397).

What variety of white pine (0396)?


Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: bwaynef on August 08, 2011, 01:18 PM
The mugo (0357, 0358) is really nice.  The blue/gray top dressing(?) is a bit distracting though.
I don't recall it being distracting in person.  Since you pointed it out, ...I'd prefer different color top-dressing, but I still wouldn't classify it as distracting.

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The amur (0360) looks to be nice.
I think it photographed poorly as there is a lot of depth to this planting.

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The limber pine has some interesting deadwood.  I think I would like to see it with a more rounded apex.
I agree on the deadwood.  That's certainly the highlight of that tree.  I'd like to see a bit denser foliage throughout ...but I'm not familiar with how these grow, ...particularly with how they grow in this climate.

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Agreed, the blue atlas cedar looks to be very nice.
The planting height/angle hides a pretty large trunk in the back of this.  I wish I'd gotten a picture of it.

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The procumbens (0369) looks interesting.  Has the bark remained on and undisturbed?  
I didn't look close enough to be able to tell you from memory, but the full-res image would suggest as much.

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What were your thoughts on the maple (0375)?
It has always reminded me of Cousin It.  I wonder how it looks out of leaf.

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I'm guessing the branch in the front (0383)?
That branch didn't stick out to me in person, but it leads to what I'm thinking.  The canopy went DIRECTLY away from the "front" (as presented).  I'd wager I was looking at the back of the tree.  Seeing the under-canopy shot would lead me to believe that as well, seeing as the apex is pointing away and the "back" branches seem ideally located as "front" branches.

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Nice pleasing shape to the other procumbens (0387).
Yeah.

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Black pine could use some wire (0397).
I wonder if losing the lowest branch and planting it at a different angle (closer to upright) wouldn't help.  Granted, it'd be painful to make that cut and mess up the bark that it has.

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What variety of white pine (0396)?
Pinus strobus

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Thanks for sharing!

I enjoyed seeing them and thought others might.  Glad (it seems like) you did!
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: MatsuBonsai on August 08, 2011, 02:14 PM
The mugo (0357, 0358) is really nice.  The blue/gray top dressing(?) is a bit distracting though.
I don't recall it being distracting in person.  Since you pointed it out, ...I'd prefer different color top-dressing, but I still wouldn't classify it as distracting.

It's a bit odd.  Ryan Neil mentioned at the Nashville show that the soil, pot, stand should not be lighter in color, as it attracts attention away from the tree, which is what bothers me here.


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The procumbens (0369) looks interesting.  Has the bark remained on and undisturbed? 
I didn't look close enough to be able to tell you from memory, but the full-res image would suggest as much.

The lower 2 branches could be shortened.  I like the (not often seen) shaggy bark which seems to be peeking out here.


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What were your thoughts on the maple (0375)?
It has always reminded me of Cousin It.  I wonder how it looks out of leaf.

I too would like to see it bare.  The roots look a bit strong to me.  Do you have more photos, or remember much more about it?


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I'm guessing the branch in the front (0383)?
That branch didn't stick out to me in person, but it leads to what I'm thinking.  The canopy went DIRECTLY away from the "front" (as presented).  I'd wager I was looking at the back of the tree.  Seeing the under-canopy shot would lead me to believe that as well, seeing as the apex is pointing away and the "back" branches seem ideally located as "front" branches.

Ah, possibly.  Hard to make out in 2-d.


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Black pine could use some wire (0397).
I wonder if losing the lowest branch and planting it at a different angle (closer to upright) wouldn't help.  Granted, it'd be painful to make that cut and mess up the bark that it has.

I don't know if that would improve it.  It may lose balance without that branch.  A good wiring might do the trick.  Not sure.


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What variety of white pine (0396)?
Pinus strobus

Wow.  I've not seen one with such short needles.  I wonder what the secret is?
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: bwaynef on August 09, 2011, 09:54 AM
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Black pine could use some wire (0397).
I wonder if losing the lowest branch and planting it at a different angle (closer to upright) wouldn't help.  Granted, it'd be painful to make that cut and mess up the bark that it has.

I don't know if that would improve it.  It may lose balance without that branch.  A good wiring might do the trick.  Not sure.

Here's what I was thinking.  It would need to be turned 180 degrees it looks like.  It would also need the wiring you mentioned.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: Hotaction on August 09, 2011, 10:16 AM
Wow, a larch in N.C.  What is the growing zone, I imagine the collection must be in the inland mountains.  I've never even heard of one south of PA.  Thanks for sharing all the pics.

Dave
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: bwaynef on August 26, 2011, 09:12 AM
Quote from: bwaynef
This hinoki was well-refined ...but something didn't sit well with me.  (The 1st photo in the next post ought to shed light on it...)

Does this photo (383) show well enough what was bothering me?

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I'm guessing the branch in the front (0383)?

Quote from: bwaynef
That branch didn't stick out to me in person, but it leads to what I'm thinking.  The canopy went DIRECTLY away from the "front" (as presented).  I'd wager I was looking at the back of the tree.  Seeing the under-canopy shot would lead me to believe that as well, seeing as the apex is pointing away and the "back" branches seem ideally located as "front" branches.

Needing to speak with the curator of the collection anyway, I asked him about the positioning of this tree.  His response was that he routinely rotates the trees to maintain their health while on display ...and that this one was in fact positioned to show the rear of the tree.  Apparently I missed a few more that were displayed 180° from the front as well.
Title: Re: North Carolina Arboretum's Bonsai collection
Post by: John Kirby on August 26, 2011, 07:42 PM
Doh!



I have done the same thing, shhhhhhhh.

John