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Title: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on September 28, 2011, 03:04 PM
October 8-9, 2011, 16 clubs from 6 states will put on a display of bonsai that's proven to be uncommon in the USA.  (See previous years' threads for more ideas as to what that means.)  There will be 10 vendors creating a huge selection of bonsai paraphernalia to choose from.  There will be several workshops, lectures, and a critique available.  The guest artist will be Walter Pall bringing his naturalistic roadshow with him.

For more information:http://www.ncarboretum.org/plan-a-visit/events/carolina-bonsai-expo .

If you're interested in any of the workshops or lectures, I'd encourage you to hurry.  They've filled up pretty quickly in the past.

HotAction/Dave has seen the Ponderosas for the workshop with WP and has attested that they're very much worth the price.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on September 28, 2011, 03:06 PM
http://bonsaistudygroup.com/bonsai-shows-competitions-and-displays/carolina-bonsai-expo-2010-pictures/ (http://bonsaistudygroup.com/bonsai-shows-competitions-and-displays/carolina-bonsai-expo-2010-pictures/)
http://bonsaistudygroup.com/bonsai-shows-competitions-and-displays/carolina-bonsai-expo-2010/ (http://bonsaistudygroup.com/bonsai-shows-competitions-and-displays/carolina-bonsai-expo-2010/)
http://bonsaistudygroup.com/bonsai-shows-competitions-and-displays/carolina-bonsai-expo-2009/ (http://bonsaistudygroup.com/bonsai-shows-competitions-and-displays/carolina-bonsai-expo-2009/)
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bonsaiTom on September 29, 2011, 06:15 AM
Sounds like a huge weekend event.

Try this link - http://www.ncarboretum.org/plan-a-visit/events/carolina-bonsai-expo (http://www.ncarboretum.org/plan-a-visit/events/carolina-bonsai-expo)

Ooops! Might be the same one.  ;D
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: MatsuBonsai on October 04, 2011, 07:42 PM
Got your camera ready to go?
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 04, 2011, 09:08 PM
It will be.  I wish I had some way to record WP's critique ...but maybe he could come hit the highlights afterward.  I'll try to get some pics of his demonstration/lecture.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 11:28 AM
I have the pictures, and I'll be uploading them this afternoon.  Overall it was good.  There were some more creative displays.  Some ...not so much.  I've heard most of Walter's lecture before, but it was pretty informative hearing it altogether with pictures.  He did a good job.  I didn't get to see the Scots pine he worked on after he finished it, but I got the "finished" picture from the demo.  (He ran out of time and was supposed to finish it during a workshop the following day, along with a (gasp) literati lodgepole pine.)

John Geneangel was working on recording the critique ..and maybe parts of the demo.  Hopefully he or ken will fill us in on whether that happened.

As mentioned earlier, I've got pics of every tree on display, and most of the displays.  I'll work to get them posted this afternoon/evening.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:21 PM
Shots *003 - 9 come from the Black Creek Study Group out of Columbia SC. 
Spruce
Azalea
Japanese Maple
Ginkgo
Bald Cypress
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:22 PM
Boxwood (Morris Midget?)
Winged Elm
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:26 PM
A club out of Tennessee.  I'll try to update later w/ the name, as well as any species I'm not able to ID.


Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:26 PM
Cont'd.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:30 PM
Piedmont NC Bonsai Association, Winston Salem NC


Trident Maple
Boxwood
Unsure

Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:32 PM
Juniper
Elm
Hornbeam
J. procumbens 'Nana'
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:34 PM
Hendersonville Bonsai Study Group, Hendersonville NC

Hinoki Cypress
Hornbeam
Juniper
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:37 PM
Juniper, azalea, and unknown
azalea
Shohin display (trident maple, azalea, unsure)
Unsure
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:38 PM
Virginia Bonsai Society
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:39 PM
cont'd.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:41 PM
I missed a group shot of this next club.  I'll update later as to which club it was. 

Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:41 PM
cont'd.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:43 PM
Susquehanna Bonsai Club, Harrisburg PA

Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:44 PM
cont'd.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:45 PM
Cape Fear Bonsai Society, Wilmington NC
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:46 PM
cont'd.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:48 PM
I wasn't able to tell the name of this.  I'll update it w/ info from cheat sheet later.

64 is an olive
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:48 PM
cont'd

Rocky Mountain Juniper
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:50 PM
Blue Ridge Bonsai Club, Asheville NC
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:51 PM
Cont'd.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:52 PM
Not sure of the name of this group.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:52 PM
cont'd.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:53 PM
Not sure.  This may've been the Atlanta club.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:54 PM
cont'd.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:55 PM
cont'd.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:56 PM
Nashville TN
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:58 PM
Bonsai Society of the Carolinas, Charlotte NC
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 01:58 PM
cont'd.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 02:00 PM
Atlanta Bonsai Society, Atlanta GA.

(I was wrong earlier.)
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 02:01 PM
cont'd.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 02:02 PM
The arboretum's collection.  (These will look awfully similar to the pics I posted last month.  Some of the trees have been repositioned, and several have fall color now.)
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 02:04 PM
This mugo was mentioned by Walter Pall as an example of the Naturalistic style.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 02:05 PM
cont'd.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 02:06 PM
cont'd.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 02:07 PM
cont'd
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 02:08 PM
cont'd
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 02:09 PM
cont'd
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 02:10 PM
Here's the Hinoki I referred to in a previous thread.  This time it's positioned w/ the intended front.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 02:11 PM
cont'd
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 02:13 PM
I've always liked this planting.  It looks so natural, and holds its own with the colors in the surrounding Asheville landscape.  Excuse the few detail shots showing the underplanting & spacing.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 02:15 PM
Nice juniper in the garden
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 02:15 PM
cont'd.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 10, 2011, 02:17 PM
The last few of the Arboretum's collection
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: Judy on October 10, 2011, 05:25 PM
Wow, that first display from the Black Creek Study group really is amazing.  You really SEE the tree.  Not that I don't love pots or anything, but it's the first time I've ever seen trees displayed this way, and it's very striking.  I wonder if there were a lot of detractors about this display. 
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: MatsuBonsai on October 10, 2011, 06:00 PM
I miss the pots.  :)
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: John Kirby on October 11, 2011, 11:32 AM
Ditto, I miss the pots as well.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: MatsuBonsai on October 13, 2011, 10:35 AM
Some of the trees from the Susquehanna Bonsai Club, Harrisburg PA are outstanding. 

It seems some of the club displays are (still) way too crowded.  Was this addressed by Walter?  Is this the individual club's decision?  Could/would Arthur supply them with more room?

I'm still digesting the rest of this thread.

Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 13, 2011, 11:14 AM
My experience and understanding suggest that its up to the club to plan their display.  Arthur generously provides 2-8' tables for 16' of space to be used as the club sees fit.  I know he's willing to allow for less space, but I've never contacted him about providing more space.  My gut suggests that'd be a tougher sell.

I wasn't available for WP's critique so I'm not sure what he had to say about any of them.  He's a member here, but is likely travelling so may not've had an opportunity to stop by and see this post.  Hopefully he'll fill us in.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: John Kirby on October 13, 2011, 11:40 AM
A good number of very nice trees. I underdtand the interest in nontraditional display. Hope everyone had an enjoyable andinterestin weekend.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: Dave Murphy on October 13, 2011, 01:43 PM
I was at the Expo and had a tree shown as part of the Atlanta Bonsai Society display.  Wayne is correct in that the invited clubs were given a certain amount of space to present their trees/display and are encouraged to come up with non traditional means of doing so, though traditonal displays, like the one we had, were welcomed, too.  Walter had only 2 hours to critique each tree and each club display, so it came out fast and furious and I honestly only remember bits and pieces. With each display, He tried to quicklyexplain what he thought the theme was, and then mention things that worked or not within that display.   He really like the Black Creek Study group display sans pots (I did, too).  His most frequent comment about many of the displays was that they were overcrowded, as John noted.  He did discuss flow (or lack of) in several of the displays, and made some suggestions to improve it.  Viewing height of the tree(good or bad) was mentioned several times.  With several displays, he just flat out said the display didn't work, and explained why it was so.  The tree critiques were generally similar.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: donmaple on October 13, 2011, 09:10 PM
Hey Yall, I was at the show, and I thought for the space and all the different clubs/groups it was a very good show. It was a little crowded but given the limited space i understand and am thankful to the groups for providing so much variety. The Black Creek display was awesome in my opinion, and yes I know the pots were missing but it offered a very good way to study the trees. Just the tree and the beautiful vanishing backdrop. It was obvious that the group spent a great deal of time and coordination on this display. If you are a traditionalist then you probably didn't like it, from a photographer's point of view it was outstanding! I ,for one, loved the fresh and crisp view of some outstanding trees. Overall there were lots of exceptional trees to be admired. If you get the chance to go don't hesitate just go! The display of trees was only one aspect, beyond the display room was a conference room full of all kind of knowledge. I didn't get to see Walter and regret it. I did get to see Jim Doyle, very good demo and almost more info than I could handle. And then there was our own Ken and John, along with Arthur they answered the rapid fire questions from the audience and kept us in stitches!!! Kinda like the Blue Collar Comedy tour of Bonsai. I guess we will have to call them "Green Necks". And to top it all off was the auction to close the event. There were some phenomenal Bonsai auctioned off for fractions of their true value let alone the retail value. What a great weekend in a perfect location with perfect weather and a great bunch of people. Oh! Almost forgot to mention the huge vending area. I had a blast! 
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: scfalconry on October 15, 2011, 01:54 AM
Wayne,
Thanks for posting all the pictures.  This was mine and my family's first Bonsai show.  Hoping to make it an annual family outing! 
Marty
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: AlexV on October 17, 2011, 12:17 PM
Thanks for posting the pictures Wayne!  Most of the time, non traditional displays make me cringe, not because I am a purist, but because I don't think they actually set the trees off.  Often it is distracting or strange enough that the display draws my eyes off the trees, which is what a display shouldn't do.

All that said, I love the displays by Black Creek Study Group.  They showcase the trees very well.  I wish they had had a bit more room to spread them out, especially the 3 point display, but still, it is refreshing to see a non traditional display that does an excellent job of showing off the trees.  Cheers to them.

Being stuck in Michigan I love seeing pictures from shows around the world, thanks again for putting up all the great pictures!

Alex
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 25, 2011, 10:01 AM
Shots *003 - 9 come from the Black Creek Study Group out of Columbia SC. 
I miss the pots.  :)
Ditto, I miss the pots as well.

The Carolina Bonsai Expo is a venue wherein non-traditional displays are encouraged.  Sometimes the displays by clubs who choose to do something non-traditional don't really work.  At least, not in any sense of the word art.  Often the mudmen, or the scenery, or the fog machines, or the trickling water, or the lighting over-power the display.  Last year, I even pointed out several changes I thought would've made this same group's effort work better.

After situating myself in the display room and trying to locate the first trees (a guide sheet is given indicating some direction as to the flow of the display) I found myself in front of the Black Creek display.  It had a nice presence.  The lack of pots, while not immediately obvious, seemed to have been executed well.  (The immediate obviousness was lessened because the viewer would likely be taken by the fact that this display was certainly non-traditional ...but executed thoughtfully.)

The flow of the display seemed to point toward the centerpiece twin-trunk Bald Cypress (http://bonsaistudygroup.com/deciduous-bonsai-discussion/4th-july-cypress/) that was clearly the best tree in the display.  It held its own by sheer size, but was separated further by its placement slightly in front of the rest of the display.  Its planting seemed very natural with rocks/gravel that didn't distract and suggested a swamp (or at least water) and the pairing of water plants was well-done.  (I was smitten with the pitcher plants, and apologize for not getting a better picture.)

The far left planting, and second-from-the-right planting were done in such a way that I had to double-check to see whether they were planted on a slab.  I had  assumed at first that they were.  Regardless, I think that the way they were presented wasn't much different than it would've been had they been on a slab.

The shohin 3-point display showed well, but on 2nd (or maybe 3rd) viewing I START to miss a little color or some other interest where the pots would be.  Still, I thought that this section of the display held its own by the varied height and sizes of the pillars on which each element sat.

The remaining two elements are the only ones where I'd entertain the idea of being bothered by a lack of pot, with the ginkgo being the most bothersome. They both have a lip around them that suggests where a pot would be ...and I enjoy the fact that the elm is planted inside an oval.  I wonder if the edges of the rectangle that the ginkgo was planted in were rounded somewhat if that would more strongly imply a more appropriate pot shape and diminish the fact that a traditional pot was missing.

Regardless, in all this I'm nit-picking.  On initial in-person viewing it was received well.  It was clear that this was executed elegantly ...and would've been clear that it would likely ruffle a few feathers.  It seems to have done that.  Somehow, it didn't seem to be done just for the sake of controversy when seen in public.

Caveat: Pot selection/pairing is a weakness of mine.  I wonder if I felt more adept in this, would I miss the pots as much as some others.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: John Kirby on October 25, 2011, 01:02 PM
Maybe on the pot selection thing, I would suggest that we call this display (Black Creek)  Hakosai (box planting) instead of Bonsai (tray planting), a nontraditional name for a nontraditional display. They are very nice trees, but I really miss the pots.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: bwaynef on October 25, 2011, 01:25 PM
When I spoke w/ John and Ken, one of them (I think it was John) pointed out that this technically wasn't "bonsai" ...though they didn't offer any names for what it was.
Title: Re: Carolina Bonsai Expo 2011
Post by: rockm on October 25, 2011, 01:49 PM
"Caveat: Pot selection/pairing is a weakness of mine.  I wonder if I felt more adept in this, would I miss the pots as much as some others"

I liked the Black Creek display (that I only saw in the photos--didn't make it to the show, alas), BUT couldn't help but feel a bit cheated on the lack of pots, too. Bonsai is, after all, greatly dependent on its container. The "containers" here are not really containers, but structural elements, which, as pointed out, makes the display really something else other than "bonsai" per se.

Looking in more detail at the details  ;D of the display, I get more of a feeling of "miniature landscape" art than bonsai. The BC looks more like a diorama of a swamp in a natural history museum exhibit than a bonsai display. That sounds bad and I don't mean it that way  :-[.

The display was obviously put together by people who love the subject material, the swamp and nature.

IMO, pots are almost 50 percent of bonsai. Removing them completely removes a significant part of what bonsai is...but,hey, I collect bonsai pots, so I'm pretty biased  ;D.