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2nd National Exhibit.
« on: June 06, 2010, 02:32 PM »
Is anyone planning on attending?  With demonstrations on both Saturday and Sunday, along with all the vendors, and not to mention the exhibit, this will no doubt be a great weekend.  I'm getting excited just thinkging about it.

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Re: 2nd National Exhibit.
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2010, 06:27 PM »
Wow WOW wow Double WOW!!!! For all you who missed it, just let me tell you...WOW!!!!!

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Re: 2nd National Exhibit.
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2010, 06:46 PM »
Let's see the pictures and hear the report!
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Re: 2nd National Exhibit.
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2010, 10:37 PM »
Sorry no cameras, but the exhibit was world class.  Phenomenal trees from all parts of the country.  Fantastic demos by both Marco Invernizzi as well as Master Kunio Koboyashi accompanied (and translated) by student Peter Warren.  Tons of vendors with everything you might want.  

Our very own Boon won an award and my congratulations to him.  (I believe it was for best tree and container combo)

Suthin Sukosolvisit was the recipient of Finest Bonsai Masterpiece with his entry of a very impressive 5-needle pine.

A display from the NC arboretum won the award for best western display.

Pedro Morales won finest shohin exhibit, with a very nice unconventional display. (frosted glass stand)

One of my personal favorites, an Eastern White Cedar won the award for Best North American Species.

There was so much to do infact, I only spent 5 minutes in the exhibit on Saturday.  (Most of which was spent searching for that EWC I knew was hiding in amongst the trees)  I was able to spend much more time in the exhibit room today, and again WOW!

Anyone who can attend any future exhibit of this caliber and magnitude should strive to do so.

Dave
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Re: 2nd National Exhibit.
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2010, 09:03 AM »
I can't believe the exhibit is "world class" as they have banned photos to pump sales of the exhibit book. That's not really "world class," as much as it is kinda silly.

The web is alive with photos of not only European bonsai shows (even the big ones), but Japanese shows (even Kokufu allows in some with restrictions  :-\ ).

I think the organizers of this show are kind of shooting themselves in the foot with this policy--especially in such a huge market as the US. Suppressing photos only suppresses interest.  It does nothing else. The thought that photos should be available only in book form for a price kind of ignores what's been happening in media and technology for the last decade or so...

You really want to drive interest, show people what they're missing. There is simply no way to encompass a complete show experience than to go in person. Photos NEVER do justice to great bonsai. There is no danger of losing attendance by allowing photography. There IS, however, a downside to losing attendance by NOT allowing it...
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Re: 2nd National Exhibit.
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2010, 09:46 AM »
Theres a downside to book sales if photography's allowed, though I'd wager not much.  Folks who weren't going to buy the book still won't simply because they can't see pictures elsewhere ...and I'd expect that a lot of folks that buy the book could care less about seeing (mediocre?) pictures online.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2010, 10:37 AM »
That's my point exactly. There is no substantial downside to allowing photos. There is a big potential upside because it would show people what these folks are talking about when they heap praise on this event (I have no doubt it's great, photos would help show how great.) Not talking about intensive, up close shots of each and every tree, shots of the exhibit  room, vendor area, a few individual trees would go A VERY long way in making me think about making the commitment to spend hundreds on driving eight hours to get there next year...
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2010, 10:41 AM »
The European Bonsai Association show apparently has no qualms about photography at their annual event (which was also this past weekend):
http://ibonsaiclub.forumotion.com/bonsai-f1/eba-convention-2010-in-zurich-switzerland-t3298.htm#32889
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Re: 2nd National Exhibit.
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2010, 11:42 AM »
Well, Rock it is worth it.  There were cameras allowed in the entire vendor area, but I didn't realize it would be in a seperate banquet hall this year, so I left my camera at home.  With many great bonsai from collections around the country such as the National Arboretum, Pacific Rim Collection, Montreal Botanic Garden, Chicago botanic garden, etc. This was no joke.  Everyone I spoke to was awed at the magnitude of this event.  Nothing like it before in this country EVER!!!  I spoke with plenty of people who came from down your way, and much further who were not disappointed. 

Oh yeah, if they did have cameras in the exhibit, it would be a complete disaster.  There were LOTS of visitors and the exhibit was very busy, and that is without everyone trying to snap pictures of the over 200 trees.

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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2010, 12:50 PM »
Well, Dave, prove it...Everyone I've spoken with says the same as you. I've no real reason to doubt it. Talk really doesn't really make me want to go though. For every one person you spoke with up there from here, I could match them tenfold with people who didn't opt to go. Think photos wouldn't help motivation?

Really, defending a "no photos" policy, in the Internet age. Really? C'mon...
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Re: 2nd National Exhibit.
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2010, 01:25 PM »
Quote from: rockm on June 14, 2010, 12:50 PM
Well, Dave, prove it

Shall I draw a picture ???  I'll see Bill V tonight, and ask him if he plans on posting a little teaser set of photos.  That is the best I can do. 

This is my comment on another forum, not that it will change your opinion, "This was the nicest show ever seen in America, EVER! This is an historic moment in bonsai for this country. A statement to the world about the level of bonsai in this country was made this weekend. We are no longer the "red-headed step child" of the bonsai world."

Rock, you've made many posts over the years, and expected people to at least consider your advice.  However, it is only as of late that you've posted a picture of your own.  Should we have told you to "prove it" all  that time, or can words be worth something without pictures?
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Re: 2nd National Exhibit.
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2010, 02:18 PM »
Fer cryin out loud. I am not asking people to drive three or four hundred miles, put up the money for a hotel and daily admission to an exhibit.

I'm not questioning Bill V's ability to put together a world class show. He is more than able to do that. I'm just questioning walling off a potentially huge promotional opportunity....If this is such a big deal, why not show prospective attendees WHY it's a big deal? Hollywood has long understood providing glimpses of new films without giving away the entire show--
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Re: 2nd National Exhibit.
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2010, 02:56 PM »
Quote from: rockm on June 14, 2010, 02:18 PM
Fer cryin out loud. I am not asking people to drive three or four hundred miles, put up the money for a hotel and daily admission to an exhibit.

I'm not questioning Bill V's ability to put together a world class show. He is more than able to do that. I'm just questioning walling off a potentially huge promotional opportunity....If this is such a big deal, why not show prospective attendees WHY it's a big deal? Hollywood has long understood providing glimpses of new films without giving away the entire show--

Can't say I disagree with you at all as far as promotional/marketing strategy.  I'm sure some teaser pics would do wonders to promote the event.  However, I understand the reasons why not also.  Attendance was superb, with over 200 people at the dinner and auction, and countless more through the exhibit and vendor area.

My feelings towards those who haven't attended isn't disdain for not supporting, rather I'm trying to let the people who have to make a larger commitment to attend aware that it is well worth it.

Dave
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Re: 2nd National Exhibit.
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2010, 08:07 PM »
I wonder who Bill let have a permission pass to photograph the show , like he gets at Kokufu. I am sure there was spomeone apporved to shoot pictures, yet not slow down traffic walking through the show.

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Re: 2nd National Exhibit.
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2010, 11:35 PM »
Quote from: John Kirby on June 14, 2010, 08:07 PM
I wonder who Bill let have a permission pass to photograph the show , like he gets at Kokufu. I am sure there was spomeone apporved to shoot pictures, yet not slow down traffic walking through the show.

John

No doubt.  I just don't happen to know who that person(s) is.  I certainly saw them there however.  I spoke with a gentleman from Bonsai Focus, but the conversation was more cordial than bonsai related.  So perhaps keep an eye out for upcoming issues.


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