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Presentation => Bonsai Pot Discussion => Topic started by: dre on September 21, 2012, 08:32 PM

Title: pot for a yew
Post by: dre on September 21, 2012, 08:32 PM
can anyone help me i'm looking for a show pot for my yew as i plan to start showing it this coming spring and have looked for a good show pot maybe someone has the right pot for my tree they might be willing to sell. please help
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: John Kirby on September 21, 2012, 08:51 PM
Why do you think that you need a different pot? What do you think would be better?
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: dre on September 21, 2012, 09:14 PM
its in a nick lenz pot right now first the pot is too deep a shallower pot would be better and the color is off a darker brown even maybe a dark red to contrast with the live vain on the tree and the pot needs to be a generally stronger pot cause the deadwood is a strong bold statement so the pot should be to so one doesn't over do the other 
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: John Kirby on September 21, 2012, 10:28 PM
There are lots of $500-1,000 and more show pots out there. The pot the tree is in is a fine pot, why don't you clean and oil it? Using walnut oil. See what it looks like. It certainly isn't too deep, really isn't too large. Save your money on the pot and buy Boon's videos.
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: dre on September 21, 2012, 10:51 PM
ya i saw one on ebay for 550 but its in japan and im nervous about spending that kind of cash when the pot still has to travel all the way here a lot can happen to a pot from there to here well ill be at nick lenz's in oct maybe he'll have something that is more like what im looking for
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: dre on September 22, 2012, 03:54 AM
plus this is what i have in mind
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: John Kirby on September 22, 2012, 08:06 AM
Good eye, but at $4,000 delivered to the US, you would have a lot more pot than tree at this time.

I buy pots from Japan quite frequently, if you know the precise size and style you want there are several very reliable sellers on Ebay from Japan. If you buy a pot from Japan, you really need to pay the extra money and get it shipped EMS with tracking and insurance. I have never had a pot break in shipment from Japan, but bigger pots always cause one to worry a bit more
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: dre on September 22, 2012, 08:17 AM
john i actually contacted walsall to commission a pot for this tree lets see what they say and as for your comment more pot that tree that a true statement i think i was talking to ryan neil or Michele Andolfo and they said most the time in japan the pot cost more than the tree it serious business when it comes to pot choice over in japan
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: John Kirby on September 22, 2012, 09:41 AM
Yes, there are frequently very, very, high yen pots (or would that be RMB Yuan? in current market place) used in Kokufu. There were a number of Antique pots in excess of 3 to 4,000,000 yen at the Green Club.  The point I was making was that highly refined (patina and age) and valued pots require highly developed trees, those that are at their peak, to provide the right level of balance. Nothing worse at a show than a good young tree tree in an outstanding old pot, excel maybe an outstanding old tree at its peak in a crappy pot, maybe a toss up.  And then we need to discuss stands, that can be the next third of the value in a display.......

What club do you belong to?
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: dre on September 22, 2012, 12:05 PM
one thing at a time i haven't even started to look for the right stand once i get the right pot then i will be in search for the right stand . it most definitely take time to find the right things to present your tree at a show i wish more and more people would take this serious as show after show people put whatever tree in whatever pot and on whatever stand that why i can't wait to go to ryan and michael's show the artisan cup in oct 2013
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: tmmason10 on September 23, 2012, 07:02 PM
This is a really nice tree, where in mass are you? Good to see people taking the hobby seriously, where do you plan on showing it? I'm with John the pot it's in isn't bad, but I do like the one you've posted.
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: dre on September 23, 2012, 08:32 PM
im in springfield ma and do really know which show i was going to show it at first other the mid atlantic or the artisan cup in oct 2013 but first and for most the pot needs to change to show it ya its not a bad pot at all but for it to be more dramatic and captivating the pot needs to change to something like what i suggested
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: Owen Reich on September 24, 2012, 09:08 AM
The original pot is not bad.  I would remove the rock no matter what.  It draws more attention than disguises the gap (which I do not think is a fault).  Strategically placed moss and lichen would work better but you wouldn't have to completely fill the "hole"; just decrease the distance from jin to surface of moss.

A pot that is not as tall as the current would be nice as the tree is not super full yet and the "thinner" pot would give the yew more presence.  However, you could do far worse than that container.  Nice tree.
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: mcpesq817 on September 24, 2012, 09:17 AM
Contact Ron Lang - he is a great potter that makes fantastic pots.  He takes custom orders.

www.langbonsai.com (http://www.langbonsai.com)

Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: dre on September 24, 2012, 12:21 PM
the rock is just there it would never be there at a show. as for the pot i just received an email from mark at walsall pottery to make the pot im looking for. ron lang is a awesome potter and even better person i've been meaning to go to one of his kiln opening events
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: rockm on September 24, 2012, 04:56 PM
Go with Ron Lang. Won't have to pay duties, worry about import etc. Ron has excellent pots and will work with you on design and glazes.

Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: Dale Cochoy on October 20, 2012, 02:09 PM
Some ideas. I guess I'll promote myself  :-[
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: Dale Cochoy on October 20, 2012, 02:18 PM
or.....
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: Dan W. on October 20, 2012, 10:02 PM
Hmmm.... I like them all...lol.

I'm fairly new so someone with more experience will be more help, but I think I'm leaning toward the first one. -- To me they all really have somewhat of the same feel, which is good I suppose as you seem to really know what you want. Now you just have to choose... .

I'm looking forward to hear what those with more trained eyes have to say. :)
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: dre on October 20, 2012, 11:20 PM
SOLD dale can i get your contact info i think i will take the third one on the first post hope to here from you soon
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: Dan W. on October 21, 2012, 09:21 AM
Sorry Dale and Dre, I got you mixed up.

Dale these are gorgeouse pots! I'll PM you as I'm curious about some of them as well. :)
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: Owen Reich on October 21, 2012, 09:59 AM
Hooray Networking!  ;D

I like the first one in the second post.  For the yew...... or for me.

Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: Dale Cochoy on October 21, 2012, 02:03 PM
Guys, these are old shots of pots that are gone. I don't keep a 'shelf stock'. once made they go to shows or back into wrapping in boxes for the next show. Lots of the pots I do are commisioned. To make a comissioned pot I need INSIDE dimentions LxWxD, no guessing! I no longer do pots comissioned under a "about" size. It leads to disappointment of everyone.
I thought these examples would be good for a yew and all are unglazed.
Owen, good choice, this was the pot I had on display at the 5th World  Show in Washington, DC in 2005 in the "By the Hand Of" display. The ONLY one I entered that the the 'Judge' seemed to think was as worthy as the many he had in the show/book.

Here are a few more examples I think would look good with a yew.
BTW, yews are one of my FAVORITE bonsai choices! I've been collecting them since about 1980.

Dale
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: dre on November 23, 2012, 10:03 AM
heres a little update on the pot for the yew i ended up contacting mark at walsall and the finished product is done. cant wait to repot the yew into this pot tell me what you think i'm really looking for some feedback thanks
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: Dale Cochoy on November 23, 2012, 11:01 AM
Nice pot, but, not quite sure how much different than the Lenz pot you started with, especially color?.
I imagine Nics was hand built,is this new pot molded?

D.
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: dre on November 23, 2012, 08:12 PM
hand built. its also smaller that the lenz pot and color is a bit darker that the lenz pot
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: John Kirby on November 23, 2012, 08:41 PM
When you get the foliage finished on this tree the Lenz pot will be pretty close to perfect. Sparse needs a smaller pot.
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: dre on November 24, 2012, 06:18 AM
It's only a little smaller not really by much the lens pot depth is 3.2 inches as the walsall pot is 2 so really I was just fine tuning the pot size if it doesn't look better than the lens pot I could just repot the tree back next year or the following year. But I really want a little darker pot also
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: dre on April 08, 2013, 10:42 PM
When you get the foliage finished on this tree the Lenz pot will be pretty close to perfect. Sparse needs a smaller pot.
john you where right when i went to repot the tree into the walsall pot it was too small and i abandoned putting it in the walsall and put it right back in the lenz pot 
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: John Kirby on April 09, 2013, 06:24 AM
I am sorry it didn't fit, it is a very nice pot, I am sure you can use it for another really nice tree. Have a new picture of the yew after it was repotted?
Title: Re: pot for a yew
Post by: dre on April 09, 2013, 08:53 AM
ya im actually gonna put a nice jbp i have that is in a jack hoover pot and i plan on the next sunny day taking pictures of my trees as i do every spring