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jw

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Need help with collecting oaks
« on: December 27, 2011, 08:14 PM »
Hey guys.  First post here.  I found a couple of oaks that I think are worth a shot at collecting.  I was hoping y'all could give me an idea of how to go about getting permission to dig.  I know that most oaks are considered difficult, but I would like to give it ago.  They are located on common property along the edge of steep limestone ledge along the edge of a lake.  I think I can get plenty of rootball.  Here are a few pics of what I am after.  Do you think they are worthy of collection?


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Re: Need help with collecting oaks
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2011, 08:17 PM »
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Re: Need help with collecting oaks
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2011, 08:47 PM »
it looks like someone has been pruning them back? Was that you or is this land maintained by someone? If so i would try to contact that individual and/or the land owner.  All three have great potential in my opinion
 

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Re: Need help with collecting oaks
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2011, 11:18 PM »
my thoughts exactly about previous pruning.  Looks obvious.  As stated in my above it is located on common property.  Between someone's yard and a lake.  There is no one in the home that is nearest to the trees and the space they're on it would be hard to build a home.  By all means, I want to go through the proper channels.   Contact the local Parks and Lakes Dept.?  that seems like a for sure NO.  There is always the theory that they cut these trees back so the could walk along the edge of the lakes.  So I'm not totally convinced that they were cut back for bonsai.
 

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Re: Need help with collecting oaks
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2011, 11:23 PM »
I do appreciate you seeing something in all three.  I am a beginner, and I don't want to mess any part of this up.  I'll make a few calls and see what happens.
 

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Re: Need help with collecting oaks
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2011, 12:27 AM »
Looks like beaver cuts to me.  They generally have parallel lines and rounded tops to the cuts.  I could be wrong.  I've collected many "beaverdori"  ;D
 

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Re: Need help with collecting oaks
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2011, 02:51 PM »
Around here, the lakes are controlled by the Army Corps of Engineers.  They are extremely protective of the shorelines.  You (even owners of the property) are not allowed to do anything to any woody vegitation.  You are allowed to mow grass, but not prune, maintain, or remove any kind of tree or shrub.  And their definition of "shoreline" can extend up onto the banks for hundreds of yards.

Even if you don't get caught in the act, if the Corps sees evidence of tree removal, they may file an action against the owner of the property where you removed the trees!

 

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Re: Need help with collecting oaks
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2011, 04:26 PM »
speaking of beavadori...can anyone id this for me?

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Re: Need help with collecting oaks
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2011, 04:54 PM »
JW, what state are you in and what kind of lake is it (man made, natural, natural ox bow, etc). Some of the most interesting trees that I have ever dug have come from lake edges- and the federales didn't descend, and oh yes, unlike many I always get collecting permits (where required) and pay the fees. You have a couple of real gems there, just need to be sure to get them done right (and legally).
 

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Re: Need help with collecting oaks
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2011, 06:06 PM »
Thanks John.  I live in Bella Vista, Arkansas.  man-made dams. 
 

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Re: Need help with collecting oaks
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2011, 07:31 PM »
Dig em. My wife and I moved from Arkansas to CT this last spring, there is very little concern for shrubbery or digging. Good luck, John
 

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Re: Need help with collecting oaks
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2011, 08:21 PM »
OK
 

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Re: Need help with collecting oaks
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2011, 08:23 PM »
May I ask from what part of the state?
 

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Re: Need help with collecting oaks
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2011, 08:23 PM »
Fayette-Nam
 

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Re: Need help with collecting oaks
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2011, 08:43 PM »
Go Hogs. That's all I have to say about that.