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Advanced Techniques => Advanced Collecting Discussion => Topic started by: travislivid on January 04, 2012, 10:38 PM

Title: Need help with collected cedar elms
Post by: travislivid on January 04, 2012, 10:38 PM
I Have several cedar elms that were about to be bulldozed so I collected them on the spot. As expected there are very few fine roots. I am thinking they are suckers from a larger nearby larger tree. I had to sever a large root they grew from that was at least as wide as the trunks. I soaked them in a bucket of water for several hours then potted in a 50/50 mix of sphagnum peat and coarse decomposed granite.
I plan on misting daily to keep them from drying out. Anything else I can do to help them survive other then wait till spring to see if they bud out?
Title: Re: Need help with collected cedar elms
Post by: Larry Gockley on January 05, 2012, 11:19 AM
You did not say how big the trunks are or how short you cut them off. That big root you cut was probably the tap root.  All the cedar elm I collected, in the hill country, I took home, (  at the time ), to south Texas where the warmer climate had them push new growth in about 4 weeks. I never lost one. Farther north, here in zone 8, it may take longer than 4 weeks but we still have mild winters, and it is important that they don't dry out  in the warm days. Misting will help, as will cut paste, and an anti-evaporation spray like Cloud Cover. Cloud Cover is not easy to find, but if a local nursery sold cut christmas trees, they may have been spraying them and have some left. Good luck Larry
Title: Re: Need help with collected cedar elms
Post by: bwaynef on January 05, 2012, 02:21 PM
Make sure there is no way for them to budge in their pot.  Wire them in, use guy wires to cinch them down, ...whatever you have to do. 
Title: Re: Need help with collected cedar elms
Post by: John Kirby on January 05, 2012, 04:18 PM
If they still have leaves, wilt-pruf works well, and seal the cuts- even if you just use elmer's glue to prevent the branches and areas around trunk cuts from drying out.
Title: Re: Need help with collected cedar elms
Post by: travislivid on January 05, 2012, 09:22 PM
There are 5 cedar elms with trunks ranging from 1/2" to 1 1/2"
I will get to work sinching them down. They are in between a fence and the house so protected from wind. There is a large tree overhead for shade. Wiring them down is a good suggestion. You never know if a dog or kid might bump into them. Does movement during rooting shock them or break new roots?
I have them in really well draining pots.
Thanks Everyone!
Title: Re: Need help with collected cedar elms
Post by: Larry Gockley on January 05, 2012, 09:33 PM
Movement will break new roots. Sooooo, they are on the ground, and you mentioned a dog. Hope the dog doesn't want to " mark his territory" on your trees on the ground. Mine would!   :o Good luck. Larry