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Collecting pine growing in red clay

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bwaynef:
John you make interesting points.  I'll grant you that there isn't any much taper, but there is more movement than the pictures show.  (I hate when folks hide behind the "poor photography" excuse, but I wasn't going to subject my camera and lens to the rain so I took the pictures in haste.)

I am trying to figure out if *this* movement, on *this* trunk, is worth the effort its going to take to get *this* trunk out and have it survive.

JTGJr25:
I'd say its not worth it.  The branching is too thick and too high on the trunk, none of it is really usable.  The trunk has no taper which will make it impossible to even make the curve in the trunk a feature.  You want to collect trees with interesting trunk lines with taper and visual interest.  You also want something that you know you can reduce if need be.  This is no more than a nursery tree that you can buy at any store.  Find something unique with more character.

Tom

Don Blackmond:
if its the only one and you really want to do it, then do it and have fun.  there is no substitute for experience and fun is always rewarding.  look around awhile longer before diving into that one.  it would not be difficult to find a better candidate.  John's advice is good, and I'd mirror what he says.  I've collected a lot of trees that I later wished I had never spent the time and energy on.  If you only have a few trees and few options for collecting, then it can be good experience.  However, if you have lots of trees or better collection options, then your time is better spent on something else.  That's just my opinion, though.

donmaple:
Wayne, this can be a great technique and knowledge building opportunity for you. The tree has no cost for you (minus your time) and you can learn valuable skills with pines if you collect this tree. From the pictures John, Tom, and Don are right about the tree...no outstanding specimen. But for me that is a plus as there is no pressure from killing a potential masterpiece. If you kill it there is no great loss. You obviously see something in this tree that appeals to you. Use the advice from Steven and Bonsaikc and go get yourself a pine. The worse thing is you kill a free tree, the best thing is you have a collected pine that may or may not turn out to be a Bonsai. Either way you will learn from this collecting experience. And when you do find a truly magnificent specimen you will have the skill set to collect it and keep it alive! Oh, and of course you will post it for all of us to oggle over. Happy collecting....Don.   

steve:
I know I'm a couple weeks behind on this but I'm betting you'll have to go five feet out to find feeder roots on that tree. A live tree in the wild is better than a dead tree at home. John's reccomendation for rocky spots is the way to go.

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